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Putin says he is ready to negotiate ‘with everyone involved’ over Ukraine
The hill ^ | 12/25/2022 | Jared Gans

Posted on 12/25/2022 10:02:48 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: BobL
If the Russians would just OVERTHROW him and put someone else in his position that better understands the West, the war would quickly end, with Russia at Poland’s border.

Concurring bump...if the Ukies don't wake up Poland is getting a new neighbor.

41 posted on 12/25/2022 10:56:55 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: Cathi

I’m no fan of Iran, but at this point, ANYTHING that slows down the Neocons is a good thing for world peace.


42 posted on 12/25/2022 10:57:07 AM PST by BobL
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Kherson was shelled by missiles RM-70 produced by Chech Republic.

https://twitter.com/AZgeopolitics/status/1606709126402301952?s=20&t=i1O5ifyHfQZla9J-QKGVIw


43 posted on 12/25/2022 10:57:52 AM PST by nickfrost1
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To: BobL

I’m sick of all of them. Putin. Biden. Zelensky.

Sick of all the other puppet masters in the shadows as well.


44 posted on 12/25/2022 10:59:27 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Is Putin ready to recognize the Ukrainian nation as an independent nation, which is NOT a part of the Russian nation? Putin repeatedly claimed that the Ukrainians were a part of the Russian nation. Unless this changes, there is nothing to negotiate about.


45 posted on 12/25/2022 11:00:22 AM PST by Czech_Occidentalist
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To: ChicagoConservative27

He wants his piece of US tax grift, not fair everyone gets to take from the US teet but him.


46 posted on 12/25/2022 11:01:19 AM PST by GreatRoad ('In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act' )
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To: Revel

“Zelensky is as evil as they come.”

Really? How many times did he invade his neighboring countries?

Oh, what’s that ? Zero times you say?

So you mean he’s not remotely as evil as Putin.


47 posted on 12/25/2022 11:01:22 AM PST by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I’m easily amused, and you’re hilarious.


48 posted on 12/25/2022 11:02:14 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: ChicagoConservative27
"Zelensky and President Biden discussed what a “just peace” would look like "...

A "Just Peace" would have to include Zelensky ending up in a monkey cage at the Moscow city zoo....

49 posted on 12/25/2022 11:02:46 AM PST by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Alright. The starting position is that Russia withdraws all Russians, including their army to the east of the Urals. This will be the line that no Russian is allowed to cross in the future. Their settlements will be razed to the ground and land will be salted a hundred miles west of that line.

Let’s give peace a chance!


50 posted on 12/25/2022 11:04:37 AM PST by Krosan
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I really trust the west to be a major part of these negotiations. We definitely have the moral authority over the rest of the planet. Who would not want to submit to a nation who has lgbtq flags on all of its embassies


51 posted on 12/25/2022 11:05:08 AM PST by Archie Bunker on steroids (You may not take an interest in politics, but politics takes an interest in you "Pericles" )
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To: silverleaf; BobL

I never mark my Sarcasm, nor Qualify my comments, and I suspect BobL sometimes has a little fun, too.


52 posted on 12/25/2022 11:09:45 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Aside from the source being The Hill, which leans Left, it is interesting that the phrase is constructed as it is. "...to negotiate ‘with everyone involved’ over Ukraine."

Thus those "involved" and not merely interested in an outcome will have to self-identify whatever may be their "involvement."

The resultant list of those wanting a set at that table will be interesting.

Demands to meet conditions before discussions may commence is an interesting problem for all involved to solve. When one has demands BEFORE discussions, then these cannot be part of a discussion, as diplomacy has often shown. Seems like it will be a jolly good bit of theater. There's no business like show business....

53 posted on 12/25/2022 11:09:57 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

If Putin has agreed to 10% for “the big guy” then negotiations will commence.


54 posted on 12/25/2022 11:13:12 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: vladimir998

Zelensky is responsible for shelling his own people.


55 posted on 12/25/2022 11:14:11 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Zelensky and Ukraine have no say over anything. They are just puppets for the west.


56 posted on 12/25/2022 11:15:12 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
"with everyone involved"
57 posted on 12/25/2022 11:15:33 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Navy Patriot

“I never mark my Sarcasm, nor Qualify my comments, and I suspect BobL sometimes has a little fun, too.”

Absolutely, but I do try to embed clues to my sarcasm (such as why shouldn’t we support a guy who helps fund the Democrats by the millions and uses his twang to play the piano). Sometimes they* don’t get it, but most here do.

*and I wonder about those, given their posting history


58 posted on 12/25/2022 11:16:21 AM PST by BobL
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To: vladimir998

Zelensky is a deep state pawn. A base of operations. A great money launder for them. He is partially responsible for the coming of communism across the entire world. As you watch your own country fall apart, Your freedoms lost, Your constitution shredded, Then you should at least in part think of Zelensky. Now go watch your NetFlix.


59 posted on 12/25/2022 11:19:50 AM PST by Revel
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To: Erik Latranyi
--- "Zelensky and Ukraine have no say over anything. They are just puppets for the west."

I suspect you have hit the nail on the head. Whatever one may "feel" for the Ukrainian side of the war, the names of the Princelings in the US ring in my ears. The Pelosi, Biden, Kerry and Romney princes and courtiers so prominent in their monetary aggrandizement over prior years in the Ukraine itself, not to mention the Bankman-Fried debacle unwinding now. Names and grifting hands worth recalling across time.

60 posted on 12/25/2022 11:22:05 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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