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Is Death Real? New Experiments Raise Important Questions On What It Means To Die
MSN ^ | 12-18-22 | Esther Landhuis

Posted on 12/18/2022 12:44:51 PM PST by Tired of Taxes

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Over the last 70 or so years, declaring death has gotten progressively messier. Scientific advances such as ventilators and life support have made it harder and harder to find the line between being a person and being a body. Now, mind-blowing experiments in pigs, and the development of a souped-up life-support system called OrganEx, are reinvigorating a decades-old debate about how our lives end.

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Yale neurobiologist Nenad Sestan researches genes that control how neurons grow and form connections in the developing brain. To perform these studies, he orders slices of tissue from brain banks around the world. Eight or nine years ago, a specimen from London missed the plane. The extra day it took to arrive was presumed to be catastrophic: Cells die after several minutes without oxygen. It’s one of the first things Sestan recalls learning in medical school.

But Sestan had already noticed that this wasn’t always the case. On several occasions, someone left a brain slab out a few extra hours before moving it into fluid for experiments, yet Sestan had still managed to recover living cells. So when the overdue brain arrived from London, Sestan asked one of his postdoctoral fellows to dissect a piece of it and let it grow in a petri dish containing cellular nutrients. “Maybe something will be there alive,” he said.

It worked; some cells grew. And then it worked again on a second brain the researchers sliced and recovered to make sure the results weren’t a fluke. Sestan started to wonder: If living cells could be preserved from a dead brain, why not try to revive the whole organ?

Using assorted pumps, heaters, and filters to circulate a custom-made blood substitute, Sestan and his coworkers cobbled together a now-patented perfusion system, which they called BrainEx.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: brain; chat; faithandphilosophy; nde; neardeathexperience; reincarnation
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To: Lockbox; ProtectOurFreedom

Classic scene in a great comedy...


41 posted on 12/18/2022 1:38:27 PM PST by Tired of Taxes
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To: tired&retired

Is that a bug or a feature?


42 posted on 12/18/2022 1:39:35 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Tired of Taxes

I guess all those militias gearing up and training for the “Zombie Apocalypse” are validated, no? Some would say that the Deep already have this technology; would explain Fetternan and the average Dem voter.


43 posted on 12/18/2022 1:39:46 PM PST by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Thanks.

I couldn’t imagine that what would keep a brain functioning wouldn’t keep a kidney, spleen or heart functioning.


44 posted on 12/18/2022 1:57:48 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spiritIq)
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To: tired&retired

A buddy of mine had a horrible stroke. His words to me, “I didn’t want to come back!”


45 posted on 12/18/2022 1:58:47 PM PST by Shady (The #JihadJunta: "We are now a nation of Men, Not of Laws. You are not as equal as we are...")
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To: Tired of Taxes

Seems to me this is most important research into a endangered species taking place at this time! Clearly working functioning human brains are on the fast lane to exciton!


46 posted on 12/18/2022 1:59:23 PM PST by Kartographer (“We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes And Our Sacred Honor”)
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To: cgbg

One doesn’t need to be an atheist to experience or accept the theory of Astral Projection. I’m Catholic and I have had such an experience, albeit involuntarily.


47 posted on 12/18/2022 2:00:12 PM PST by lee martell
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To: tired&retired

Why is it that under anesthesia, there is absolutely no feeling of consciousness whatsoever? Why isn’t anesthesia just like being asleep? No little dreams or anything else?


48 posted on 12/18/2022 2:01:21 PM PST by atc23 (The Matriarchal Society we embrace has led to masks and mandates and the cult of "safety")
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To: pricilla

That’s the entire premise of Buddhism. Life is an illusion, the afterlife is the real life.

CC


49 posted on 12/18/2022 2:03:48 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Tired of Taxes
BrainEx

Wondering why they gave this process a name that sounds like something you can order from Amazon for $19.99 a bottle.

50 posted on 12/18/2022 2:05:57 PM PST by Right Wing Vegan (Pot legalization licenses every degenerate pothead piece of trash to force drug neighbors.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

ping for later.


51 posted on 12/18/2022 2:09:30 PM PST by chuckles
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To: Tired of Taxes

Cue the Archer meme:

Do you want Zombies? BECAUSE THAT’S HOW YOU GET ZOMBIES.


52 posted on 12/18/2022 2:14:46 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

“She’s a democrat. She was already brain dead, sir.”


53 posted on 12/18/2022 2:15:44 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Decomposition is very real and decidedly a win for the bacteria and parasites that make up a huge percentage of our anatomy. As for liberals, how could you know if it was a restart or a first use.


54 posted on 12/18/2022 2:21:08 PM PST by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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To: albie; cgbg
"This is where atheism gets you. No belief system, just a bunch of studies."

I respectfully disagree. IMHO with so much obvious design in nature in the universe, it requires a lot of faith to believe that we all got here by a series of freak accidents.

55 posted on 12/18/2022 2:22:01 PM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: cgbg

Excellent analogy 👍


57 posted on 12/18/2022 2:24:50 PM PST by SandwicheGuy ("Man is the only pack animal that will follow an unstable leader." Cesar Chavez)
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To: tired&retired

I died 2x in York Hospital, during a 23 day stay for acute/severe Pancreatitis, from general anesthesia post-op, and was brought back both times (obviously). I don’t remember anything, except sleeping.


58 posted on 12/18/2022 2:26:33 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: tired&retired; Osage Orange

>>6 X. Must be a record!<<

Not even close. About a week ago, there was one that went 142 or 143 consecutive.

It was Osage Orange, “Kill your own meat.”


59 posted on 12/18/2022 2:26:44 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!)
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To: palmer; tired&retired
One of his papers: https://joelvelasco.net/teaching/2300/van_lommel13-non_local_consciousness.pdf

Wow.

"And we reached the inevitable conclusion that patients experienced all the aforementioned NDE (Near Death Experience) elements during the period of their cardiac arrest, during the total cessation of blood supply to the brain."

60 posted on 12/18/2022 2:30:02 PM PST by TChad (Progressives are in favor of removing healthy sex organs from children. Conservatives oppose this.)
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