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Can red states overcome their hatred of California and embrace electric cars?
The Los Angeles Times via MSN ^ | December 12, 2022 | by Noah Bierman

Posted on 12/12/2022 6:49:51 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

This industrial city an hour north of Indianapolis isn't as famous as Detroit, but it has become an unlikely battleground in the war over electric cars.

Almost everyone you meet here either works in a factory, is retired from one or has a relative in a plant that makes parts for gasoline-powered cars — which have ruled Kokomo for nearly 130 years.

Yet change is coming. Bulldozers are clearing Kokomo’s cornfields to build a $2.5-billion government-subsidized electric vehicle battery factory, with the aim of retaining jobs tied to auto production at a time California is leading the nation in phasing out gas-powered engines.

Environmentalists, along with industry and government leaders, see a transformation afoot after decades of false starts. They have acknowledged, however, that they can’t complete the shift if electric cars are viewed as something only for rich liberals in California and New York. They need everyone.

The uneasy reception to EVs in Indiana — in a national climate that includes Republican lawsuits against California's new emissions rules and televised warnings that they represent an attack on freedom — suggests that the country remains divided over embracing a technology that environmentalists say is essential to combating climate change.

Indiana can feel like a tough place to own an electric car.

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To: Gay State Conservative

I drive to Kansas from Texas a couple of times a year. 14 hour drive. It takes 1 and 3/4 tanks of gas. An EV just wouldn’t work especially pulling a 4,000 lb trailer.


61 posted on 12/12/2022 7:36:21 AM PST by Texas resident (Who is running our country?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Oh, look ... another article stoking the party versus party flames.


62 posted on 12/12/2022 7:38:16 AM PST by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: wita
You and I speak the same language. Basically we're saying let the free market decide who gets what. I can't stand the Dims forcing solar and/or EV's onto people -- even though they work well for me most of the time.

In fact, I don't want solar implemented at the utility level, not even here where it'd work better. Because solar is not 100% guaranteed power. Solar is great from my home, but only because I have guaranteed power I can depend on from the grid when my solar isn't enough. Year round, that comes out to about 10% of the power I need having to be pulled from the grid (more in the winter, less in the summer). So solar works amazingly well for me -- but even I still need the utility power to be dependable power.

63 posted on 12/12/2022 7:39:01 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: frogjerk
Let the market decide.
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64 posted on 12/12/2022 7:40:22 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (A jury represents society. It presumes the innocence of anyone the government undertakes to punish)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Not when a replacement battery costs ten grand.


65 posted on 12/12/2022 7:40:41 AM PST by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell..)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Is this a plan for success of failure? Is there sufficient power supply to power all the elector cars they want? Are there sufficient power stations along highways? Is electric transportation cheaper than other sources. This is designed to fail not succeed!


66 posted on 12/12/2022 7:42:59 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Roadrunner383
" In urban or even suburban settings EVs can make sense."

...and part of the plan for the Democommies is to force everyone into increasingly large urban settings where they (already) control the local governments.

Meanwhile, they couldn't care less about anybody living outside the city limits.

67 posted on 12/12/2022 7:44:12 AM PST by alancarp (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: skeeter

Journalists are dumber than me, so why waste time reading their material? How do we dispose of 350 million EV batteries? What is the total carbon footprint of an EV car vs a regular car? No effing journalist ever bothers to even ask these question!


68 posted on 12/12/2022 7:45:07 AM PST by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell..)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No, they cannot, nor should they.


69 posted on 12/12/2022 7:46:31 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Can red states overcome their hatred of California and embrace electric cars?”

Let’s see how successful California is making the charging stations readily available and how efficient they are and whether all that power being sucked out of the power grid leads to rolling back outs.


70 posted on 12/12/2022 7:52:10 AM PST by antidemoncrat
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To: Lazamataz

An oped piece off the cover of the “National Enquirer”.


71 posted on 12/12/2022 7:53:01 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

No.
Get wrecked.

Signed,
Texas.


72 posted on 12/12/2022 7:53:09 AM PST by 1ScrappyArmyMom
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To: CFW

“EVs are not yet ready for prime-time. That fact has nothing to do with California.”

I recently bought a third ICE vehicle that I drive just enough to keep from deteriorating. If they stop selling ICE vehicles I’m good for the rest of my driving life. They won’t be able to outlaw ICE vehicles completely anytime soon because most people can’t afford EVs. I see a Cuban look on our roads in the future.


73 posted on 12/12/2022 8:02:54 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: G Larry

Yep!


74 posted on 12/12/2022 8:07:00 AM PST by caprock (from the flats of SE New Mexico)
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To: jdsteel

Yes...diesels are designed for highways,not city/suburban driving. But the funny thing is that 95% of my miles in this vehicle are on Interstates. I’m lucky enough to live across the street from a train station and within walking distance of a supermarket,etc.


75 posted on 12/12/2022 8:07:40 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Quick answer: NO!


76 posted on 12/12/2022 8:10:43 AM PST by Gritty (The issue is never the issue. The issue is always the Revolution. - Saul Alinsky)
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To: Texas resident

Yup...EV are completely unfit for many different tasks. I just saw something recently about EV trucks.An 18 wheeler on I-70 in Colorado would get 10 miles on a charge...and then spend 12 hours + recharging.


77 posted on 12/12/2022 8:11:16 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (No Doubt Now: Stolen Election)
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To: jdsteel

“Consider a Ford Mach e…as a commuter car only”

That raises another point. A lot of people don’t commute these days. Buying, insuring and maintaining a car just for short trips is a money loser overall. A hybrid or econobox ICE car makes much more sense as a “short trip” car at this time.


78 posted on 12/12/2022 8:12:05 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Indiana can feel like a tough place to own an electric car.


My only experience with Indiana is several viewings of ‘A Christmas Story’. I believe they have something called ‘winter’ there. How well do electric cars do when the heater is on?

The elephant in the EV room is the current (heh heh) state of batteries. Taking a half-hour to ‘fill-er-up’ doesn’t work for most people. The batteries themselves occasionally have a penchant for catching on fires that are very difficult to put out.

Perhaps even a bigger elephant is where does the electricity to charge the batteries come from? The only sources of energy that has the blessings of the enlightened California environmentalists are solar and wind. Even geo-thermal is bad because it endangers toads and hydroelectric is bad because of Indians and salmon.


79 posted on 12/12/2022 8:13:54 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: SaxxonWoods
Think of the vehicles presented in the Mad Max movies. And, look at the war on ICE vehicles currently being waged by the left. You can see how such vehicles would come into being. A part from this vehicle, another from that one, and soon we will all be “road warriors”!

My hubby is pretty handy at repairing the basic older vehicles, but not so much the new computerized ones. We have a 1986 Chevy Suburban that was originally a state-owned vehicle. It has only the basics, not even an AC, so is easier to maintain. We are also lucky to have a family of good shade-tree mechanics just down the road from us. They will keep the local's vehicles in drivable condition should the need arise.

80 posted on 12/12/2022 8:16:41 AM PST by CFW
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