Posted on 12/11/2022 9:49:31 AM PST by dennisw
Putin promised the Russian people that Donbas would be liberated. And the path to that goal - however fantastical - lies through Bakhmut. So the show must go on.
The battle is more symbolic than practical. Analysts agree the blood price that Russia has paid trying to take Bakhmut - thought to be more than 100 troops per day - is not worth the value of capturing it.
'They are just meat to Putin,' a commander named Kostyantyn told the FT on a visit to the front. 'And Bakhmut is a meat grinder. For what? A f****** metre of our land.'
Witnesses called it 'First World War' trench warfare, with Russian troops sent into a 'meat grinder' of Ukrainian machine gun nests under artillery barrage
The battle for Bakhmut has descended into a hell-scape reminiscent of the First World War as Putin throws troops into a fight described as 'a meat grinder'.
Russia is pounding Ukrainian trenches in the city - once home to 70,000 but now little more than a ruin - day and night with artillery before troops charge into front-on attacks against machine gun nests.
Now littered with shell holes, skeletons of trees shredded by shell-fire, and bodies of dead soldiers in eerie echoes of Passchendaele, Ypres or the Somme more than 100 years ago.
Leading the charge, for the last several months are Yevgeny Prigozhin's feared Wagner Group mercenaries.
Having triumphed in the battle for Mariupol earlier in the war alongside Ramzan Kadyrov's Chechen mercenaries, Prigozhin appears to have taken on the mission to Bakhmut as a way to raise his personal standing with Putin.
That effort, at least, appears to have been successful: Russia has officially acknowledged the existence of Wagner and allowed its leader to set up office in a swanky new skyscraper.
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Kranked Klown, in this situation, the sources are vague. And as a certified Klown you know this. In the last few weeks in Bakhmut, the killed and casualties have been high for the Ukrainians and higher for the Russians.
Very rough for both sides.
Your name calling is hilarious, especially coming from one who only spews and spews and spews utter BS WITHOUT one shred of sources, evidences, links, nothing.
*yawn*
Apparently, the tabloid DailyMail has run out of shat for you to pull from yeah?
Posting to yourself again! Klown!
Sources.
Evidences.
Where.
Peddler?
Nonsense. I guess you have never heard the term cannon fodder. I seem to remember some huge casualty numbers that came back from the islands in the Pacific. I'm sorry. That's real history. Your history doesn't start until Feb 2022.
LOL. They say it is “Verdun”, the Russian forces outgun the enemy by a factor of ten but suffer more casualties...It is entirely believable, or not:)
With Biden in office the US would do nothing if Taiwan was invaded
dennis said to you that everyone skims past your posts.
I don’t skim past them, so how truthful is he then? If I don’t skim past them, then I imagine that others don’t as well.
And since when did he come to know everyone to make the claim he did?
dennis needs sources and evidence to retort you but it seems lacking from him. Sad.
I am not surprised you and the other Comrades don’t skip past them, but the rest of us have better threads to explore, Goodby
We live in a world of limited resources. We are dependent upon ROC-made advanced chips. Are we dependent upon Ukrainian made products? Certainly not.
Per US Department of Commerce, in 2021, the US exported $36.9 billion to, and imported $77.1 billion from ROC, primarily ‘Machinery & Mechanical Appliances’. That includes MASSES of high tech, high value equipment that use such chips.
Per US Department of Commerce, in 2021, the US exported $2.5 billion to, and imported $1.9 billion from Ukraine. Base metals is the principal import by the US. Unfortunately, just like Singapore, I guess the US has nothing to mine! America has to import base metals. (/sarc)
On which country is the US (AND the FREE WORLD) dependent upon? (Here’s a hint, as you don’t seem to get it: ROC!)
But, of course, almost a decade of RUSSIA! ,RUSSIA!, RUSSIA! being screamed by the MSM and the Deep State, it is not at all surprising that many, including FReepers, are willing to blow the West’s scarce resources on the Ukraine war, when the ChiComs pose an existential threat to the West, if they gain control of ROC.
Now, the US is sending Patriot missiles to Ukraine. Who’s going to operate them? Ukrainian draftees? Nope. US Army. A The Russians aren’t stupid. If one of their aircraft is shot down by a Patriot, and especially if the pilot is killed, the Russians will blame the US. Things WILL escalate. This could mean nukes.
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