Posted on 12/11/2022 9:49:31 AM PST by dennisw
Putin promised the Russian people that Donbas would be liberated. And the path to that goal - however fantastical - lies through Bakhmut. So the show must go on.
The battle is more symbolic than practical. Analysts agree the blood price that Russia has paid trying to take Bakhmut - thought to be more than 100 troops per day - is not worth the value of capturing it.
'They are just meat to Putin,' a commander named Kostyantyn told the FT on a visit to the front. 'And Bakhmut is a meat grinder. For what? A f****** metre of our land.'
Witnesses called it 'First World War' trench warfare, with Russian troops sent into a 'meat grinder' of Ukrainian machine gun nests under artillery barrage
The battle for Bakhmut has descended into a hell-scape reminiscent of the First World War as Putin throws troops into a fight described as 'a meat grinder'.
Russia is pounding Ukrainian trenches in the city - once home to 70,000 but now little more than a ruin - day and night with artillery before troops charge into front-on attacks against machine gun nests.
Now littered with shell holes, skeletons of trees shredded by shell-fire, and bodies of dead soldiers in eerie echoes of Passchendaele, Ypres or the Somme more than 100 years ago.
Leading the charge, for the last several months are Yevgeny Prigozhin's feared Wagner Group mercenaries.
Having triumphed in the battle for Mariupol earlier in the war alongside Ramzan Kadyrov's Chechen mercenaries, Prigozhin appears to have taken on the mission to Bakhmut as a way to raise his personal standing with Putin.
That effort, at least, appears to have been successful: Russia has officially acknowledged the existence of Wagner and allowed its leader to set up office in a swanky new skyscraper.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
The Russian Army. Bums with guns.
Truth.
Putin orchestrated the Moscow bombings to get the second Chechen war rolling so he could gave his Reichstag event, kicking off his 22 year dictatorship
And his rule has been ruinous for Russia. Just like Chavez in Venezuela, Putin took over a country rich in minerals but also people. And he took the money for himself and his oligarchs, while the cream of Russia left
No, the wholesale waste of your own soldiers is not something that NATO countries or Japan, south Korea, India, Australia, etc even do.
Alexander Nevsky, the Islamic hero rewarded with a Tatar helmet with Islamic inscriptions?
In the 1930s, Stalin came to the conclusion that he needed a historical figure that would mark a break with the Westernizing element of Marxism. He ordered to dust off the relics of St. Alexander Nevsky, and commissioned a high-budget biopic movie to the brilliant director Sergey Eisenstein (remember “Battleship Potemkin”?).
During the raids of Mongol troops throughout the Eastern Europe in the 1230s and 1240s, he was taken hostage by the invaders. In captivity, he made friends with the Mongol monarchical scion Sartyk and even was adopted by Khan Batu.
On his return home, Alexander Nevsky actively helped the Mongols stomp out the remaining Russian insurgency.
Alexander is exceptional in that he’s possibly the only national hero in the world who fought his own compatriots on the side of invaders.
A different kind of meat grinder.
I just hope your casualty figures are as bad as your dollar figures. US has approved about $50 billion for Ukraine assistance, not a measily $50 million.
“I just hope your casualty figures are as bad as your dollar figures. US has approved about $50 billion for Ukraine assistance, not a measily $50 million.”
The mention was a rhetorical example of how ZelenskyyIdiot views life of his cannon-fodder he keeps steadily feeding the Russian meat grinder.
And those numbes were not mine, as evident by the link to the person’s Twitter post, idiot.
Furthermore, check your moronic numbers....
“U.S. aid to Ukraine totals $68 billion, and the White House has just asked Congress for another $37.7 billion.”
‘Aid to Ukraine Explained in Six Charts’
https://www.csis.org/analysis/aid-ukraine-explained-six-charts
Yo, that bridge from which you crawled from under is missing you about now......
Wmarshal “ever eastward march of NATO”
False.
Poland, the Baltics, Romania etc all feared Russian inv7. Which is why they petitioned to join .
Putin’s invasion of Georgia and Ukraine proved that they were right to request to join NATO as Putin invades non NATO neighbours of Russia
Wmarshal “ever eastward march of NATO that is behind this conflict”
False.
Ukraine and Georgia applied to join NATO in 2008 and that was rejected by Germany and France for fear of “provoking Russia”. Russia invaded Georgia 6 weeks after the rejection.
Dial back further and Putin’s aim to recreate the Tsardom was apparent in his writings and actions.
Putin is behind this conflict, nothing else.
“Wmarshal “ever eastward march of NATO that is behind this conflict”
False.”
Cronut, your propaganda peddling steadily fails.
‘The Expansion of NATO Since 1949’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug2468hDl6E
Don’t let FACTS get in the way of your continued propaganda peddling though.......
Crankdiot, you out a YouTube channel with no evidence as proof ?
You guys in Moscow are getting desperate with your propaganda
The truth always wrecks you peddlers, always.
You spew and spew and spew and provide nothing in support, no evidences, no sources, no links, no nothing but the continued spewing of utter BS, Cronut, utter BS.
Try again, Dear Peddler.
“And those numbes were not mine, as evident by the link to the person’s Twitter post, idiot. Furthermore, check your moronic numbers....”
Well Comrade it’s nice of you to tell us that your comment I responded to was from someone’s Twitter post, you idiot. And that still does not explain why you would use his really moronic numbers, that were over a thousand orders of magnatude less than the most recent figures. Why would I have to use the most precise current figures when reporting something you wrote that was so extremely ridiculously low? Don’t bother answering that question I am done with your foolishness.
“Don’t bother answering that question I am done with your foolishness.”
Thankful.
Move along troll.
I hear a bridge calling you.
I looked at your FR home page. Lots of Vitamin D info there. I have watched two videos so far. My D3 levels are at 75 then 76 ng/ml, as tested twice.
Putin stooge Cranked, is cranking it up to eleven and then thirteen.
Where your sources and evidences from yesterday, peddler?
Still waiting......
“The New York Times reports that Ukraine is sending its least-willing conscripts to the frontlines with minimal training, while turning away those eager to fight. The fatality rates are reported to be around 70%.”
https://twitter.com/pawelwargan/status/1601620326315855872
You cite sources all day long. Sorry to tell you illiterate, inept, clown, but everyone skims past your posts. Nobody has time for that sheeeeeeet!
Evidence.
Sources.
Where.
Peddler?
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