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'They are just meat to Putin… and we are the meat grinder': Ukrainian soldier says 'conveyor belt' of Russian troops are being cut down as Battle of Bakhmut descends into 'First World war hell'
MAILONLINE ^ | 9 December 2022 | CHRIS PLEASANCE

Posted on 12/11/2022 9:49:31 AM PST by dennisw

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To: cranked; dennisw

Are you trying to claim only about 9000 Russians are dead so far? Even your articles say the numbers are “far higher” than that. And judging from the number of corpses and blown up armor seen in videos and photos, 9000 dead is definitely just a fraction for Russia.

Who exactly are you trying to convince with these links? People who won’t read the articles?


61 posted on 12/11/2022 1:25:31 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Who exactly are you trying to convince with these links? People who won’t read the articles?”

As with your brother dennisw, when you going to shat out counter evidences and sources, he who talks with one huge ass mouth?!

You propaganda peddling idiots good at running your collective mouths but fail HARD at providing any amount of sources or evidences to counter the evidences and sources others provide. YOU and your peddling cohorts F A I L!

“A torture chamber, where Ukrainians used electric shocks on their victims, was uncovered in one of the factories vacated by 🇺🇦 troops in the Donbass.”
https://twitter.com/KhersonFrom/status/1599864302319546368


62 posted on 12/11/2022 1:28:46 PM PST by cranked
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To: cranked

Whoever wrote that article is hopelessly out of date with their propaganda. Not even Russians still repeat the lie that Ukraine banned the Russian language—which is the native language for hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian troops!


63 posted on 12/11/2022 1:29:16 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

When.
You.
Going.
To.
Shat.
Out.
Counter.
Sources.
And.
Evidences.
Propaganda peddler?!


64 posted on 12/11/2022 1:30:07 PM PST by cranked
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To: cranked
shat out counter evidences Of what? If you're making some kind of claim, you should use sources that actually back up what you're saying before demanding we disprove you. Common problem with you unhinged loonies.
65 posted on 12/11/2022 1:32:26 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Sources?
Evidences?
Where?!

Hello?!


66 posted on 12/11/2022 1:33:00 PM PST by cranked
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To: canuck_conservative

—>> and you do this all the time

And yet you were the only and first one to bring up sex.


67 posted on 12/11/2022 1:33:38 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

More ‘inconvenient truths’ for you, propaganda peddler.

“Col. Richard Black: Ukraine is losing more men per day in Bakhmut (alone) than the United States lost in a month during the Vietnam War”
https://twitter.com/Navsteva/status/1601756111115145216
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Col. Richard Black: I would just say to Ukrainians “watch out because if you think things have been bad so far you’re going to see something that is way beyond anything you’ve conceived of so far.”
https://twitter.com/Navsteva/status/1601762213920149504
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Still waiting on them counter sources and evidences there, peddler!


68 posted on 12/11/2022 1:34:32 PM PST by cranked
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To: dennisw

May interest

Ukraine: Putin’s War to Change the World

https://www.institutmontaigne.org/en/analysis/ukraine-putins-war-change-world

April 28, 2022

By Michel Duclos

1st EXCERPT - Putin’s War:

It was Putin’s fear of “color revolutions” – a fear that had begun with Ukraine’s “Orange Revolution” of 2004—that pushed him towards reinforcing both his authoritarianism and his opposition to the West. Secondly, and decisively, he saw that the “repolarization” he was seeking internationally earnt his country additional prestige—without provoking a reaction from America.

2nd EXCERPT - Putin’s War:

Putin’s role in the Syrian crisis allowed Russia to return as a power in the Middle Eastern theater, and The BRICS group that Minister Lavrov had so skillfully formed allowed Russia to rejuvenate its waning international influence. Most of the world’s developing nations agreed with his denunciation of Western “treason” over Libya.

BETWEEN THE TIME FRAMES OF THOSE TWO EXCERPTS:

Putin invaded Georgia, east of the Black Sea. And that, both:

- activated some NATO mechanisms

- increased eastern European interest in seeking national security assistance from NATO.

3rd EXCERPT - Putin’s War:

Western hesitancy over supporting the Syrian rebels, particularly Obama’s failure to follow through on his “red lines” in August 2013 and the dazed Western response to Russia’s Syrian intervention in September 2015, convinced Putin that he had adopted a winning strategy.


69 posted on 12/11/2022 1:46:22 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: dennisw

And

The Speech In Which Putin Told Us Who He Was

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/02/18/putin-speech-wake-up-call-post-cold-war-order-liberal-2007-00009918

February 18, 2022

By Daniel Fried and Kurt Volker

EXCERPT:

15 years ago, Russian President Vladimir Putin used the [annual Munich Security Conference] gathering to issue a broadside that definitively rejected the European security order many in his audience had spent years trying to build. In February 2007, Putin stood in Munich’s Bayerischer Hof for 30 minutes and accused the United States of creating a unipolar world “in which there is one master, one sovereign.” He added, “at the end of the day this is pernicious.”

EXCERPT:

The real moment of revelation was his broader conclusion that the U.S.-led liberal order, a.k.a. the Free World, was of no interest or value to Russia.

EXCERPT:

Putin’s speech came as a shock to those who had invested substantial effort in working with Russia to include it in a post-Cold War global stability system – and, at the time, still believed this was possible. A decade and a half later, a massive Russian military build-up in and around Ukraine is capable of striking at any moment. We should not now be surprised or confused. He made clear his intentions already in 2007.


70 posted on 12/11/2022 2:11:01 PM PST by linMcHlp
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To: tlozo

Good Lord they’re all old men.

So much for the ‘’Big, Bad Russian Army’’.


71 posted on 12/11/2022 2:47:36 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: dennisw

What’s the first casualty in war again?


72 posted on 12/11/2022 2:51:35 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: dennisw
Another example of projection by both the Ukrainians and British media.

It's Ukrainians soldiers being slaughtered literally the hundreds daily and Zelensky, the Biden regime and NATO couldn't give a hoot.

73 posted on 12/11/2022 2:57:08 PM PST by Kazan
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To: cranked

Yes vatnik, your tweets from random people—and this one somehow has me blocked from his account already—is hard evidence for your myriad of claims. I submit to your rock solid troll evidence.


74 posted on 12/11/2022 3:17:18 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Chunga85

A succinct and astute observation.


75 posted on 12/11/2022 4:20:09 PM PST by Its All Over Except ...
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To: cranked
You have been wrong hundreds of times here, and make an ass of yourself on a regular basis. If you were Mohammedan, you would be driving a Toyota HiLux with a .50 caliber machine gun bolted onto the bed. Somewhere in this world.

Image result for Toyota HiLux   machine gun

76 posted on 12/11/2022 4:31:00 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: linMcHlp

Thanks! I am reading it. With this and other Putin warnings, Germany and Europe still got hooked on Russian gas via pipelines. Always so much cheaper when it comes into Europe via pipelines. The EU was paying the equivalent of $20/barrel oil.

The European Greenies are to blame. The people who are paranoid - hysterical about fake global warming. Because natural gas (from Russia) was/is seen as cleaner than burning oil/coal and puts out less evil CO2 also.


77 posted on 12/11/2022 4:39:48 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; cranked
Are you trying to claim only about 9000 Russians are dead so far? Even your articles say the numbers are “far higher” than that. And judging from the number of corpses and blown up armor seen in videos and photos, 9000 dead is definitely just a fraction for Russia.

Cranked is Vlad Putin's triple threat against America. Cranked will post anything, anywhere, at any time. Cranked, the Energizer Bunny of posting. Posting drek that everyone skims past.

78 posted on 12/11/2022 4:52:12 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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To: Nextrush

Meat.

Unless you won the Nobel prize for discovering a unique DNA in Ukraine males.


79 posted on 12/11/2022 5:51:17 PM PST by Old West Conservative
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To: jmacusa
So much for the ‘’Big, Bad Russian Army’’.

Exactly - in reality, the Russian 'clown car' military couldn't even take Kiev. The "Big, Bad Russian Army" is an imaginary bogeyman, that the Deep State claims is somehow an existential threat to NATO, just so they can keep funneling tens of billions of dollars to Ukraine.

80 posted on 12/11/2022 6:36:25 PM PST by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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