Posted on 12/06/2022 1:48:51 PM PST by SoConPubbie
President Trump addressed widespread headlines perpetuated in the mainstream media claiming that he had called for an alleged termination of the U.S. Constitution, slamming the stories as “DISINFORMATION” and “LIES.”
“The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People that I said I wanted to ‘terminate’ the Constitution,” he wrote on Truth Social on Monday. “This is simply more DISINFORMATION & LIES, just like RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA, and all of their other HOAXES & SCAMS.”
On Saturday, the president wrote a statement on Truth Social decrying egregious evidence of Big Tech’s alleged election interference in the 2020 presidential election after Twitter owner and CEO Elon Musk released the “Twitter Files.”
As reported by RSBN, the internal documents showed copious amounts of emails highlighting requests to censor or remove tweets at the behest of government officials and beyond.
Trump’s original response was pointed and straightforward:
“So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!”
Following his statement, conservative pundits and commentators online and in the media have painted Trump’s comments as if he called for a total removal of the authority of the Constitution. However, President Trump said on Monday that this was not the case.
“What I said was that when there is ‘MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION,’ as has been irrefutably proven in the 2020 Presidential Election, steps must be immediately taken to RIGHT THE WRONG,” he explained. “Only FOOLS would disagree with that and accept STOLEN ELECTIONS. MAGA!”
He continued, “SIMPLY PUT, IF AN ELECTION IS IRREFUTABLY FRAUDULENT, IT SHOULD GO TO THE RIGHTFUL WINNER OR, AT A MINIMUM, BE REDONE. WHERE OPEN AND BLATANT FRAUD IS INVOLVED, THERE SHOULD BE NO TIME LIMIT FOR CHANGE!”
Trump said: “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.”
There is no other way to read that but as a call to ‘terminate’ the Constitution.
Trump on RSBN, Truth, a few fringe sites like FR has no voice. No one but a few of we choir members will hear how Trump defends himself. Elon Musk gave Trump a national voice again. Trump is an absolute fool not to run with the opportunity. Trump can’t be considered a serious candidate while being incommunicado with 80% of America.
Along with hudreds of posters right here on FR.
Well, yes there is, and if you think that Trump was condoning termination of the Constitution, you need to get the log out of your eye. Let me dissect the sentence in its most basic parts:
Fraud...allows for...negation of all things law and order, even the most fundamental.
Its the Fraud that negated our fundamental rights. It is not Trump calling for it.
Trump is a broken man after 2020. I understand. I think many of us would be the same.
But he has lost all political instincts and continues to shoot himself in the foot.
Many here still defend Trump’s blunders, but those are not the ones who are getting turned off....it is the independents and moderate Democrats that Trump needs if he wishes to win in 2024.
At the rate he is going, Trump will be easy to beat in the primaries.
Trump has a great agenda, but he is not a good politician. He loses too many voters because of that.
U.S. v Throckmorton says fraud vitiates everything
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Magnum44 wrote: “Well, yes there is, and if you think that Trump was condoning termination of the Constitution, you need to get the log out of your eye. Let me dissect the sentence in its most basic parts:”
Well, no, there isn’t. Trump specifically called for termination of the Constitution.
Magnum44 wrote: “Fraud...allows for...negation of all things law and order, even the most fundamental.”
Please quote the aricles in the Constitution that provide a mechanism to: “.. throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION?”
What they did to the Hunter Biden story is Trump’s own fault.
He signed the legislation allowing it. Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Protection Agency was created under Trump, signed by Trump and created the authority for the federal gov’t to meet regularly with social media companies to combat Russian Disinformation
Trump is the victim of his own dumb signature.
Sadly you are correct
What Trump is saying is that accepting fraud in the elections has already thrown out our constitutional rights and guarantees. There are valid arguments that the constitution is NOT a suicide pact. The remedy is not defined, but doing nothing is not acceptable either.
Since 2015 Trump has said nothing that I have disagreed with or caused me to be offended. I have always clearly understood where he is coming from. All this thrashing about for mean tweets, etc. whatever is BS. All of it was and continues as misinformation spin by the media.
We are in a spiritual battle for our very survival as a nation and so many are worried about how Trump's words offend snow flakes. If Americans are so easily offended by a man like Trump and vs. the evil communist in power now, then maybe the US doesn't deserve to survive.
I hope the Brunson brothers win!!!
from the start of the Russia non sense, Trump could have so easily used that to his political advantage...stressing this is what happens when on “outsider” wins the election for President...and targeting the wealth of the members on Congress, and how they aquirred that wealth. On BOTH sides...instead of getting off twitter and addressing the Nation about it, like Reagan did with Iran-Contra, he said the same thing over and over..”witch hunt” etc....he said and did things with out thinking it all through...very annoying.
“THERE SHOULD BE NO TIME LIMIT FOR CHANGE!”
Trump’s perfectly within his rights to think there shouldn’t be a time limit, but right now there is a time limit, and it is imposed by the Constitution. If he wants to change that he’ll either need to get an amendment passed (which won’t be retroactive), or lead a revolution...
Stepan12 wrote: “U.S. v Throckmorton says fraud vitiates everything.”
No, not always.
But perhaps the best discussion of the whole subject is to be found in Greene v. Greene (2 Gray (Mass.), 361), where the opinion was delivered by Chief Justice Shaw. “The maxim that fraud vitiates every proceeding must be taken, like other general maxims, to apply to cases where proof of fraud is admissible. But where the same matter has been actually tried, or so in issue that it might have been tried, it is not again admissible; the party is estopped to set up such fraud, because the judgment is the highest evidence, and cannot be contradicted.’
Besides, despite numerous lawsuits, fraud has yet to be proven.
Actually, it doesn’t say that. Have you read the judgement?
The Constitution provides for a republican form of government where the people, directly or indirectly, are the ultimate source of authority, electing their representatives.
That's what the Constitution provides for. That's what we don't have when we have fraud.
If fraud is proven in a court of law, then you don't need to provide a mechanism to throw the election out, because you haven't had an election yet that is supported by the Constitution.
Boogieman wrote: “Actually, it doesn’t say that. Have you read the judgement?”
You can’t be serious thinking that Freepers should consult the original source to see if it in fact justifies a claim.
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