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Di Leo: Clumsy but Correct - President Trump and the Challenge of Restitution
Illinois Review ^ | December 5, AD 2022 | John F Di Leo

Posted on 12/05/2022 9:27:24 PM PST by jfd1776

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1 posted on 12/05/2022 9:27:24 PM PST by jfd1776
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Excellent article that said better what I was thinking.


2 posted on 12/05/2022 9:29:17 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: jfd1776

Excellent post.


3 posted on 12/05/2022 9:38:17 PM PST by farming pharmer (fork you :(){ :|:& };:)
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To: sauropod

>> And the media went mad.

>> Once again, President Trump was his own worst enemy.

You’re foolish comment came to mind


4 posted on 12/05/2022 9:47:03 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: jfd1776

Great article.

I think many people have misunderstood what Trump was trying to get at: “You might as well not have a Constitution at all, if the way things have gone is any indication.”


5 posted on 12/05/2022 9:49:19 PM PST by thecodont
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Trump's wording was poor, but the real problem goes beyond the exact wording about "termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution...."

The real problem is exactly who decides that the fraud justifies tossing out Biden and installing Trump, or having a new election immediately? Because we all know that everyone isn't going to agree with that, especially the roughly half of the country that voted for Biden. So what happens when one side says "yes, Biden must immediately be thrown out and replaced", and the other side says "no, we disagree"?

The courts have already come down on the side of "no". So...what happens next? And what percentage of Americans truly want that to happen? That's the image Trump's comments raise in the eyes of lots of people, and it isn't one likely to win him many votes.

6 posted on 12/05/2022 10:01:00 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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The only correct action to hold those accountable for crimes against the 1st Amendment is restitution. Go after the money. May that penalty render the DemonKKKrats penniless.


7 posted on 12/05/2022 10:10:45 PM PST by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: jfd1776

The corruption and lawlessness we have witnessed by the political class in the past two elections is just the “caboose” of a long train of abuses and treachery the American people have endured for at least several decades,.


8 posted on 12/05/2022 10:20:34 PM PST by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LEFTISTS RUIN EVERYTHING !!!)
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To: jfd1776

The only man who stood up to those who want to destroy America...in my lifetime is: President Donald Trump.


9 posted on 12/05/2022 10:20:54 PM PST by Maris Crane ( )
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To: jfd1776; central_va
Excellent article!

“President Trump is clumsy in saying so, but his central point is that it isn't just President Trump who was robbed by the stolen election of 2020; it's the entire country. The result of that crime was the Biden-Harris regime, and likely the Democrat majority in the House and Senate as well.”

The money quote for me. Thousands are dead in Ukraine in a war that would not have happened if the election were not stolen. There would not be any runaway inflation if the election were honest. There would be no war on energy and less well to do people would not be suffering. But MSM, Deep State, Big Tech, and the Democrat Party stole the election and hundreds of millions of people are suffering.

10 posted on 12/05/2022 10:22:10 PM PST by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell..)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Then the world will continue to suffer.


11 posted on 12/05/2022 10:23:40 PM PST by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell..)
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The only constitutional solution at this point is for someone to make a 14th amendment Section 2 challenge in the swing states to have their House representation stripped in proportion to the amount of voter fraud that took place.

Take away enough House seats in the guilty states, and maybe some of this will stop.

-PJ

12 posted on 12/05/2022 10:30:39 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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We’re facing the same problem the founders faced. No British court was ever going to legitimize their grievances and waiting for that to happen would have been fruitless. We’ll just have to work our way through this the best we can.

I think some are missing the point about the Constitution. The problem isn’t so much that there are flaws in our Constitution. Maybe the founders could have put some additional provisions in it that would have made our current predicament less likely, but ultimately there is no Consitution, however perfect it may be, that can provide a remedy once the reins of power have been taken over by criminals who refuse to abide by its provisions. A constitution is just a piece of paper. It requires a government that is faithful to its words for it to work. We’ve reached the point where that is no longer the case.

When the government no longer allows its citizens to seek a remedy for their grievances, it has become illegitimate and lost the consent of the governed. As far as our fellow citizens who don’t yet understand this, we’ll just have to explain it to them the best we can.


13 posted on 12/05/2022 11:39:54 PM PST by mbrfl
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We now see that it would have been handy to put something in the Constitution that says “if it is found that any member of congress, president or vice president was elected through illegal methods, a new election shall be held within three months to determine the remainder of the term,” or “… the runner-up in that stolen election shall be installed for the remainder of the term.” But they didn’t think of that. They never dreamed it would be necessary.

The fundamental problem is that if people are willing to break rules, and people who should protect against rules being broken turn their backs, or worse, engage in rule breaking themselves, then yet more rules will not fix the problem. Civilization falls.


14 posted on 12/05/2022 11:57:00 PM PST by Flick Lives (Cui bono)
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The problem, however, is that there is no clear written mechanism to do so.

They have weaponized the agencies we have no recourse, we see the evidence but the media doesn’t want to report it because they are invovled

When senator cruz was asked what are you going to do come January he said we are going to bring those responsible to congress for hearings and when the plead the 5th? well we will have to wait until 2024 when we have full control. Here we go again


15 posted on 12/06/2022 1:41:43 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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Bkmk


16 posted on 12/06/2022 2:51:51 AM PST by sauropod (Fascists also buy Comcast cable packages" - Olby - Wanna buy mine?)
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To: Maris Crane

AMEN!


17 posted on 12/06/2022 3:06:53 AM PST by AuntB (Trump is our Ben Franklin - Brilliant, Boisterous, Brave and ALL AMERICAN!)
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To: mbrfl

GREAT answer and reply!


18 posted on 12/06/2022 4:04:11 AM PST by ExTxMarine (Diversity is necessary; diverse points of views will not be tolerated.)
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To: ExTxMarine

Thanks!


19 posted on 12/06/2022 4:30:47 AM PST by mbrfl
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To: Dr. Sivana

I recall something mentioned in an old adage about ‘living well’ and ‘revenge’.


20 posted on 12/06/2022 4:48:31 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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