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Justices seem conflicted in immigration enforcement case
WaPo ^ | 28 Nov 2022 | By Robert Barnes

Posted on 11/29/2022 11:23:28 PM PST by blueplum

The Supreme Court appeared conflicted Tuesday in a contentious dispute about whether the Biden administration’s immigration policy priorities conflict with Congress’s instructions in federal law...

... Texas and other Republican-led states said the guidance violated specific commands from Congress. One provision of federal law says DHS “shall take into custody” noncitizens...

...But Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wondered what the court should do if it decides “shall means shall.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; biden; constitution; ice; illegals; immigration; invasion; notimmigration; roberts; shall; shallmeansshall; supremecourt; xiden
"ICE has 34,000 detention beds and, as of June, more than 4 million undocumented immigrants in its caseload, including 327,000 people with criminal histories."
1 posted on 11/29/2022 11:23:28 PM PST by blueplum
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To: blueplum; bitt

h/t bitt

related:
LISTEN LIVE: Supreme Court hears arguments over Biden enforcement of Trump-era border policy
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4112607/posts


2 posted on 11/29/2022 11:25:41 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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Roberts dissembling like Bill Clinton, I see.


3 posted on 11/30/2022 12:17:57 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: blueplum

Is doesn’t mean is,
Shall doesn’t mean shall.

And Roberts is the guy who in his confirmation said his job was only to call the Balls and Strikes, not to rewrite the rules.

Expect Roberts to vote with his fellow democrats.


4 posted on 11/30/2022 1:55:26 AM PST by oldbill
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To: oldbill; All

Yup, he’s the jerk who folded on Obamacare bck in 2012.


5 posted on 11/30/2022 1:59:23 AM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: blueplum

Well, seems like there’s some discretionary money in the budget, how about we start with the retirement plans of congress? That should at least provide 300,000 beds.


6 posted on 11/30/2022 2:03:20 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: blueplum

Shall does mean shall, and especially when intentionally written in law. If “shall” gets used against us, then it should also get used against the fed.


7 posted on 11/30/2022 2:23:57 AM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: blueplum

“Shall not be infringed” doesn’t mean what it says ? We’re screwed.


8 posted on 11/30/2022 2:59:13 AM PST by Baldwin77 (Super, Duper, Ultra Maga, subject of the Ultra Maga King Donald)
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To: blueplum

So, WaPo says the court appeared ‘conflicted’, based on CJJR not being able to understand the word ‘shall’?

That should mean the court is clearly leaning to the conservative position...


9 posted on 11/30/2022 3:09:23 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. The Dhimmicraps are ALL Traitors. All of them.)
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To: blueplum

Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wondered what the court should do if it decides “shall means shall.” Maybe send them back to their home country to follow the proper immigration procedures.


10 posted on 11/30/2022 3:51:42 AM PST by pas
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To: oddball; Cobra64

LGBFJRoberts


11 posted on 11/30/2022 4:00:31 AM PST by A strike ("The worse, the better." - V.I.Lenin, (& Schwab & Soros)
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To: blueplum

The SCOTUS will do what Deep State tells it to do.


12 posted on 11/30/2022 4:07:22 AM PST by mewzilla (We will never restore the republic if we don't first secure the ballot box.)
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To: blueplum

Roberts still creates shit out of thin air - Clinton asked what “the meaning of ‘is’ is” and Roberts questions if “Shall” actually means “Shall”.

They go out of their way to create nonexistent “Noble Cause” clauses in the Constitution and in Law.


13 posted on 11/30/2022 5:15:04 AM PST by trebb (So many fools - so little time...)
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To: Cobra64

And rewrote the unconstitutional fines in Obamacare into constitutional taxes.

Had to save the Bamster’s signature accomplishment doncha’ know.


14 posted on 11/30/2022 6:03:17 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: blueplum
Transcripts of SC Oral Arguments. I'd point directly to this case, but the excerpt didn't even mention the case name. I hate reporters. This should be in the first paragraph.
15 posted on 11/30/2022 9:17:15 AM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: blueplum

I’m pretty sure the word “shall” has been adjudicated. Can’t remember the case, and I’m probably paraphrasing badly, but the line I recall is “must” means “may”, and “shall” means “shall”. (i.e., it is required)


16 posted on 11/30/2022 9:20:46 AM PST by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Cobra64

Traitor Roberts is likely to continue down his dark path.


17 posted on 11/30/2022 3:34:23 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paladin2

It appears so. I have seen no good from this man since he became a Justice.


18 posted on 11/30/2022 6:02:03 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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