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Elon Musk Takes on a Goliath
NYT ^ | NOVEMBER 29 2022 | By Andrew Ross Sorkin, Ravi Mattu, Bernhard Warner,

Posted on 11/29/2022 7:24:36 PM PST by SmokingJoe

The Twitter owner’s latest fight is a big one: the market dominance of Apple’s App Store.

Elon Musk has been unafraid of picking fights, whether with prominent politicians, political whistle-blowers or his own employees. But in taking on Apple on Monday, the Twitter owner was trying to start a brawl that could have ramifications stretching from Silicon Valley to Washington.

Mr. Musk complained that Apple had paused most of its advertising on Twitter, continuing his berating of companies that have done so. But it’s his allegation that Apple “threatened to withhold Twitter from its App Store but won’t tell us why” that could prove more important.

Apple is a major source of ad dollars for Twitter. It was the biggest advertiser on the platform in the year’s first quarter, spending $48 million, according to The Washington Post.

Mr. Musk’s App Store allegation resurrects a potent charge against Apple: that it has used access to millions of iPhone and iPad devices as a cudgel to extract more money from app makers. A key part of Mr. Musk’s plans for Twitter is collecting more revenue from subscriptions — but under Apple’s policies, up to 30 percent of those sales from iPhone users would go to Apple itself. (“Did you know Apple puts a secret 30% tax on everything you buy through their App Store?” Mr. Musk tweeted.)

But Mr. Musk has also pitched his complaint in bombastically broader terms, calling it “a battle for the future of civilization.” (Twitter’s former head of public safety, Yoel Roth, wrote in a recent Times guest essay that Apple’s and Google’s app stores do prohibit certain kinds of content, and that failure to adhere to those rules — including by allowing certain kinds of material on the Twitter app — “would be catastrophic” to Twitter’s business.)

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KEYWORDS: 0chat; apple; chat; chatforum; musk; newyorkslimes; twitter
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To: Round Earther

And I am exercising my free speech by bycotting all apple products.


21 posted on 11/29/2022 8:29:40 PM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I am using Android Motorola g pure phone. Works great, nice big scree but not too big, much cheaper than i-Phones. The battery lasts me nearly a week before needing recharge.


22 posted on 11/29/2022 8:35:02 PM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: entropy12
I am using Android Motorola g pure phone.

Android=Google. Some of us distrust Alphabet/Google more than we do Apple. I am not saying there is a right answer, but some of us struggle to pick the least wrong answer.
23 posted on 11/29/2022 8:37:59 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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To: entropy12

Yes


24 posted on 11/29/2022 8:50:55 PM PST by Round Earther
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To: Regulator
He boned Lockheed, ULA and Boeing in the rocket biz with a vehicle that is without dispute now the world leader.

He boned GM, Ford and all of Japan & Germany with the most successful new motor/fuel technology introduction in 100 years.

His satellite constellation is already doing well in a space that nobody in the telecom biz thought could ever work after the failure of Globalstar and Iridium.

The fading, aging has been operation known as the rotting Apple should be very, very nervous.

There is a difference -- all of the companies other than Apple were competitors. Apple and Elon's Empire are more symbiotic than competitors. I am viewing this as more of a set of preliminary negotiations where rival warlords will publicly hurl insults at each other before privately negotiating a peace where there is less conflict and more profitability for both.

25 posted on 11/29/2022 9:19:48 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Round Earther

>> Apple has no obligation, moral, ethical or legal to continue advertising on Twitter.

Of course not.
Doesn’t change the fact that the Apple of your eye is an amoral cesspool of woke faggot filth.


26 posted on 11/29/2022 9:40:33 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Truth is not hate speech.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Here’s the real message from this:

1. Public debate has moved completely to online, and social media is where about 99.9% of it happens.

2. Since the First Amendment prevents government from interfering with free speech, the job has been outsourced to the Democrat MAGMA (Microsoft, Apple, Google, Meta, and Amazon).

3. As private companies they can censor and do whatever they want without regard to the First Amendment.

4. To encourage and reward them for doing whatever the government asks, the MAGMA coalition is given special treatment, little regulatory oversight, and basically a free hand.

This is what’s going on in China, just as it is in the US. The CCP doesn’t want a certain feature that permits free speech, so it’s partner, Apple, disables it - problem solved. Everyone wins - except the poor forgotten citizen.


27 posted on 11/29/2022 9:58:54 PM PST by bigbob (z)
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To: CurlyDave

It’s a good observation, and I love the symbology!

It may be. It will come down to whether the aloof and hidebound poobahs of the existing “tech” world will find their roots and embrace Elon’s massive appetite for risk. He’s a gambler.


28 posted on 11/29/2022 10:08:59 PM PST by Regulator (It's fraud, Jim)
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To: Round Earther

“This is a show of disobedience unprecedented during Chinese premier Xi Jinping’s decade in power. The unrest spans regions and classes – from the exploited workers of Zhengzhou, locked in sprawling factories as they produce half of the world’s iPhones”

Your butt buddy Tim Cook is an exploitative pig. Why do you support him?


29 posted on 11/29/2022 10:20:48 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Truth is not hate speech.)
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To: SmokingJoe

I’d wager both Apple and Google (and Xi) have deduced that ultimately Musk is bound to leverage Twitter and Starlink into basically a new version of the Internet (Muskverse?), which will largely or completely exclude Apple and Google (and probably Microsoft). Ultimately they have to kill him but in the meantime I would be surprised if they jump right to the end game and ban the Twitter app, which would only speed up the development of Muskverse.

I don’t believe they could block browser access to Twitter in any case. Twitter is addictive and people would use a sub-optimal browser interface rather than give it up. But on the other hand Apple is essentially a tool of the CCP, and the Chinese masters could decide to sacrifice the whole shooting match if necessary to forestall Muskverse.


30 posted on 11/29/2022 11:26:53 PM PST by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: bigbob

yep fascism

ccp still uses the communist label but it has gone fascist

and is the model for worldwide fascism


31 posted on 11/30/2022 12:47:44 AM PST by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: SmokingJoe
Dana Loesch @DLoesch They went from "Twitter is a private business" to level CCP real fast.

11h Amanda Marcotte says the only way to save Twitter is for the government to buy and run it
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2022/11/29/amanda-marcotte-says-the-only-way-to-save-twitter-is-for-the-government-to-buy-and-run-it/ 11:02 PM · Nov 29, 2022

32 posted on 11/30/2022 2:38:51 AM PST by SmokingJoe ( )
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To: SmokingJoe

I love Elon. ❤❤❤


33 posted on 11/30/2022 5:04:31 AM PST by Ciexyz (Prayers for America.)
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