Posted on 11/29/2022 10:50:27 AM PST by Hildy
There are a couple of threads going on on FreeRepublic about this and I do not think people understand what certification of an election is and what it would mean not to certify a County election. I am attaching an article from today's Lake Havasu City Paper that I think did a very good job reporting what happened yesterday. I will be happy to answer any questions that anyone has. Mohave County is the most Conservative County in Arizona if not the whole Southwest. If I believed, for one minute, not certifying the Mohave County election would lead to something or even MEAN something positive, I would have done it in a heartbeat, even if it meant jail. But that just is not how this thing works guys.
https://azsos.gov/sites/default/files/2021_EPM_October_1_Submission.pdf
manual
page 262
The Board of Supervisors has a non-discretionary duty to canvass the returns as provided by the
County Recorder or other officer in charge of elections and has no authority to change vote totals
or reject the election results
Yeah, I dug further unto your list of machines, and my only further question is the term “Accessible Voting” (handicapped voters use touch screens??)
Your list says “Accessible Ballot Marking Device” is the “ES&S ExpressVote (BMD)” you pictured...for handicapped voters? Or for all in-person polling place “day of” voting? They also list the “ES&S DS850” paper ballot scanner as being used in Mojave County....I would imagine that is for mailed in/dropped off absentee/mail paper ballots? So a combination of voting methods I guess...paper and touch screen electronic.
If you are local go down to Kingman, AZ and take a look on Dec. 8th: https://www.mohave.gov/ContentPage.aspx?id=118&cid=1650
Also:
https://www.essvote.com/products/expressvote/
https://www.essvote.com/products/ds850/
https://azsos.gov/sites/default/files/2022_Election_Cycle_Voting_Equipment_Aug.pdf
<> Four out of five Republican Supervisors on that Board handed over Arizona to the Democrats without even a fight <>
what should have been done differently ?
Re: 119 - I was being sarcastic about criticizing at a distance and should have used a sarcasm tag ;)
Arresting people for not sitting at the back of the bus was clearly unconstitutional. And doubt I would be a loyalist. But you using those examples shows me you can’t argue the point.
You believe that Mohave County should not have certified because it would have put pressure on other counties to not certify. But you don’t know that at all. It’s obviously speculation. What’s not speculation is you want Mojave County to break the law to address suspected lawbreaking at Maricopa County. Just not a good strategy. So we will be disagreeing on this.
Good luck!
“What’s not speculation is you want Mojave County to break the law to address suspected lawbreaking at Maricopa County.”
Surely you’re aware that the signers of the Declaration of Independence were technically breaking the law. Would you have supported them breaking the law or would you have urged them to continue submitting to the tyranny the were being subjected to because it was the law? That fact that you pretend the two situations aren’t analogous just shows me you can’t argue the point. But that’s okay. I’m used to that from you.
I should also add that I’m taking your word and Hildy’s word that Mojave County actually did certify the election and that there were no problems with their county’s election. It would be even more disgraceful if we find that to not the case.
Thanks for the link. I am not on Gettr, but watch War Room often.
I’m not the one calling someone spineless or telling them what they should have done.
They should have launched an investigation 2 years ago instead of fighting it at every turn.
I did not realize you were from Mojave Co. So I agree with those that are telling you you did the right thing for your county. But the right thing for the state would have been to not certify. Happy there is still one county holding out.
What are we going to do about it?
they have gotten away with this twice now and THEY WILL REMAIN UNTIL THEY ARE FORCIBLY REMOVED OR MADE TO RESIGN.
I understand we need to go through the process, but if they continue with this, we have some difficult decisions to make.
Since this Governor is illegitimate in a blatantly fraudulent election that will disenfranchise EVERY county, then we need to refuse to acknowledge her. We need to become ungovernable. I’m not sure how we do that yet, but a tax revolt seems a good place to start.
Still not arguing the point, I see. When you being up the Declaration of Independence, blacks refusing to sit in the back of the bus, etc, that tells me 1) you don’t know the law, and 2) you can’t argue the law.
Do better.
Yep. They know if the populist wing ever wins, their gravy train is gone forever. If the DemoKKKrats win, the gravy train is only gone til maybe the next election.
PA has remarkably similar election certification laws (imagine that! hmmm), and Luzerne County PA just said to hell with the certification deadline.
Pennsylvania County That Ran Out Of Paper Ballots Fails To Certify Election Results
Admittedly the example of blacks at the back of the bus was not the best example, but as far as the Declaration of Independece goes - of course I bring it up. The signers were technically committing treason according to British law. Are you pretending you don’t know that?
We are looking at all options. When the State certifies the legal machinations begin. We had two years to do this.
One more time and for the last time. This person Kstockwell says she is a constituent. Never met her. She doesn’t like me, hard to believe but it happens! I have been working my ass off for the Republican Party for 15 years in Arizona. To thank me for my hard work I was a Trump delegate in 2016. I supported him absolutely. I do not worship him. He is a man with many faults. When this election came around I looked at the PRIMARY candidates and my first choice was Matt Salmon. I am not running back from that. He would have been an awesome Governor. He was the only candidate with a Conservative Record. He founded the Freedom Caucus and had a 100% Conservative scorecoard while in the House. When he stepped down he threw his support to KTR. I met with her and thought she would be a good Governor. When Kari Lake won I threw every ounce of my being behind her. Campaigned, raised money. The primary process is how we choose candidates. The job of a political party is to win elections. I will never apologize for who I choose to support during a primary. After the primary we all get behind the winning nominee.
And if you thought I am doing a bad job, Oh well. I have invited you to come see me, I even invited you out to lunch. You refuse would just rather call names. That’s ok. You have to have a thick skin in this profession.
I will not go back and forth here with you. My invitation stands. 1130 Hancock Rd. 928-758-0713.
Because they had problems IN their County. That was not the case in Mohave County.
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