Posted on 11/27/2022 8:46:54 PM PST by SeekAndFind
The American Bar Association is under fire after taking steps to abandon LSAT entrance exam scores as a law school admissions requirement after a study showed that minority applicants score lower.
The Council of the ABA Section of Legal Education and Admissions to the Bar approved the proposed standards revision earlier this month.
The proposed change now goes to the association's policy-making body, the House of Delegates, for review in February. "But final approval to change ABA Standards and Rules of Procedure for Approval of Law Schools rests with the council, which serves as an independent arm of the ABA for the accreditation of the nation’s law schools," said Bill Adams, managing director of ABA accreditation and legal education.
The vote comes after a 2019 study found that black test-takers score 142 on average, 11 points lower than the average for white and Asian test-takers. The 50th percentile is approximately 152 on the test, which gives scores ranging from 120 to 180. The Law School Admissions Council, which administers the LSAT, does not readily publish data about scores by race.
Rep. Greg Steube (R-Fla.) told "Just the News, No Noise" TV show last week that he wishes the LSAT was not a requirement when he was applying to law schools.
"I can guarantee you that's going to have an effect on their schools' bar passage rate if they do away with that," he said.
"But again, it's another example where it's identity politics or, you know, they're more concerned about affirmative action and race than they are the people that can intellectually pass the rigors of law school and become good lawyers," Steube said.
The Wall Street Journal editorial board blasted the ABA move. "The American Bar Association's move to discard objective tests won’t enhance diversity," the board wrote on Thursday. Without the testing, the board argued, students will arrive at school less prepared and unready for the eventual bar exam, which it said may be targeted for elimination next.
Sixty law school deans also signed a letter to the ABA in September stating that eliminating the testing requirement will "diminish the diversity of
law schools' incoming classes."
>>No LSAT, no Bar... what could possibly go wrong?
Idiocracy: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sIRDCR8xSO0
The 40 meter and the bench press at the NFL combine are probably also racially unfair.
We do it for women, why not for blacks?
If we didn’t lower the physical standards for women there wouldn’t be any in firefighting, police, or the military.
Blacks may score 11 points lower on the LSAT but they more than make up for that with their violent crime score.
Just do away with Law Schools, let people go to work for Law Firms and learn on the job reading the law like they once did and then they take the bar exam. Basically you apprentice to become a lawyer. That will weed out a lot of people who really don’t need to be lawyers to begin with.
Apprenticeship is applicable to several other “professions”
YES; the Bell Curve is real.
And it applies to all people; Black, White, Red, Yellow, and Brown.
Give an IQ test to any racial group and you will find the REALLY STUPID, THE NORMAL RANGE, and the REALLY BRILLIANT.
The majority of Blacks, Browns, and Reds don’t do well because just like the majority of Whites; THEY ARE LAZY BASTARDS!
The only reason Yellows don’t fit into this category is because of cultural differences, they are pushed by their parents for support later in life.
Curious that they don't bother distinguishing between the White and Asian test-takers.
I bet namely that there is also a "certain other minority" that actually tests higher than the Whites. Is that also because of "systematic racism" and/or "historical factors?"
Regards,
You should probably get an Asian or Jewish lawyer.
Regards,
All this starts with reading. Superior reading ability begins in elementary school. If this foundation is not established early, it's going to a challenge at some point to be a sufficiently high flier in these skills. Eventually there's going to be a brick wall that will be insurmountable no matter the ambitions.
All that said….. There will be rare exceptions to everything I just said.
My opinions…
If you watch Waiting For Superman, you would be horrified at the abysmal conditions of inner city schools.
Here in my area, the high school my kids attended was only 23% white. Over 97% of the students graduate and approximately 80% go on to college. The 2022 valedictorian was a black girl who is heading off to Yale to study molecular biology. No slouch.
There is no reason kids can’t have an excellent education in the US. Why are kids being taught by sub-par teachers in crappy buildings with outdated books?
Corruption in blue cities.
Don’t be fooled by the numbers. That is a 60-point test, with blacks averaging 22 points and whites and Asians 33 points:
1) That 11 point differential is substantial, and
2) There are a lot of not so bright attorneys out there.
NOT THIER FAULT ITS RACISM
[That is a 60-point test]
Wow - had no idea
22/60 = 0.366666%
33/60 = 0.550000%
I’m sure Saul Goodman would agree!
Wait, there’s more:
“Because the LSAT does not assess a scoring penalty for incorrect answer choices, you should always guess on every question that you cannot complete during the allotted time.”
https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/guessing
You should be able to get approximately 20% correct just by random guessing, so there are really only about 48 possible points to be had above random. Without knowing their precise scoring formula, one could estimate that on average blacks get 10 and whites and Asians get 21 of those possible 48.
What do you base that on?
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