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Taiwan president quits as party head after China threat bet fails to win votes
Reuters ^ | 11-26-22 | Sarah Wu and Yimou Lee

Posted on 11/26/2022 1:15:16 PM PST by dynachrome

aiwan President Tsai Ing-wen resigned as head of the ruling Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) on Saturday after her strategy to frame local elections as showing defiance to China's rising bellicosity failed to pay off and win public support.

The elections for mayors, county chiefs and local councillors are ostensibly about domestic issues such as the COVID-19 pandemic and crime, and those elected will not have a direct say on China policy.

But Tsai had recast the election as being more than a local vote, saying the world is watching how Taiwan defends its democracy amid military tensions with China, which claims the island as its territory.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; elections; taiwan
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To: M Kehoe

Well, he did have a signed paper...


21 posted on 11/26/2022 1:55:56 PM PST by EEGator
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To: dynachrome
Friend whose wife is from the Pacific Rim and still has family over there notes about 50% of Taiwanese want re-unification with the chi-coms.
22 posted on 11/26/2022 2:00:10 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: EEGator

None of this is surprising. People who have a good understanding of Taiwanese local politics have predicted this kind of results (as well as most local news station). Seeing the discussion under numerous Taiwan-China posts though, I can understand why people would get the wrong impression. However, I wish we can share more nuanced perspectives on what ordinary Taiwanese think and want rather than the same fear mongering articles written by people who have never step foot in Taiwan.

This election is a local election. People vote for local, administrative issues they care about like childcare policies and elder care policies. I don’t think the results can indicate one way or another how people feel about China’s threats. This article (https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/4726888) outlines pretty clearly why national elections and local elections, while linked, tell different stories about Taiwanese perspectives.


23 posted on 11/26/2022 2:00:18 PM PST by VAFreedom (Wuhan Pneumonia-Made by CCP, Copyright Xi Jingping)
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To: VAFreedom

Thanks for the explanation and link.
I don’t know much of anything about Taiwan, and I’ve never been there.
I know about TSMC, and that’s about it.


24 posted on 11/26/2022 2:03:59 PM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

He’ll be (pardon the expression) blackballed.


25 posted on 11/26/2022 2:05:23 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: EEGator

Wrong thread...the elections winners will shrink back in the face of ChiCom threats and allow the PRC to continue to encroach on Taiwan’s sovereignty, undermining the entire National government. The ChiComs won’t have to fight for it.


26 posted on 11/26/2022 2:07:14 PM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: EEGator
How’s TSMC’s Arizona construction going?

The huge building is going up fast - but much work remains to be done inside. Scheduled opening is not until 2025.

27 posted on 11/26/2022 2:10:39 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: Timber Rattler

The future seems to be interesting with respect to power shifts.


28 posted on 11/26/2022 2:12:12 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Thank you.


29 posted on 11/26/2022 2:12:26 PM PST by EEGator
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To: for-q-clinton

If you don’t see a global pattern here you are blind. Italy somehow snuck through but that will get fixed.


30 posted on 11/26/2022 2:18:37 PM PST by gibsonguy ( )
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To: EEGator

These were “local” elections. The factors at play here were Covid policies, local crime, and governmental issues. China rarely factors into these elections. The new party head of KMT publicly stated the national policies of protecting Taiwan’s democracy and strength would not change.


31 posted on 11/26/2022 2:27:22 PM PST by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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To: Jonty30

You’d read it wrong.


32 posted on 11/26/2022 2:27:44 PM PST by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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To: Vaden

Thank you.


33 posted on 11/26/2022 2:27:52 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Reily

They don’t have any real cash. China is the most indebted country on earth. It’s fake ponzi scheme economy is collapsing as is the society.


34 posted on 11/26/2022 2:28:51 PM PST by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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To: EEGator

Because it is far worse than anyone imagines. We’re talking near-total collapse of progress. Xi has destroyed most industries and is increasing state control.


35 posted on 11/26/2022 2:30:06 PM PST by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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To: Vaden

I don’t know the Taiwanese would otherwise reject somebody who advocates resisting China, unless they are more interested in reunification for the sake of peace.


36 posted on 11/26/2022 2:37:03 PM PST by Jonty30 (You can't spell liberal without the a-hole. )
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To: Vaden

I’ve been saying on numerous threads that a global depression is coming.
I, of course, can prove nothing.

Bank of China, Bank of England, Credit Suisse, and Deutsche Bank have issues.
Real estate in the US and China is a massive bubble.
How far in are Vanguard, BlackRock, and numerous REITs in to the real estate bubble.
Rail strike coming, diesel over $6, and firings in numerous industries.
How about credit card debt?
The list is long and ugly...


37 posted on 11/26/2022 2:43:04 PM PST by EEGator
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To: Gay State Conservative

Trust me, the Chinese would much rather do it that way if they thought they could. Even if it took 100 years.


38 posted on 11/26/2022 2:45:29 PM PST by Husker24 (Pp)
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To: Vaden

It doesn’t take that much to buy crooked politicians.


39 posted on 11/26/2022 2:52:29 PM PST by Reily
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To: dynachrome
Mainland China: Mandarin speaking, culturally Han Chinese

Taiwan: Mandarin speaking, culturally Han Chinese

Have I missed anything here?
40 posted on 11/26/2022 2:55:40 PM PST by indthkr
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