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1 posted on 11/23/2022 10:02:55 AM PST by elpadre
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2 posted on 11/23/2022 10:07:18 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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The Russians must have used capapults our trebuchets, because CNN said they were out of missiles


3 posted on 11/23/2022 10:08:08 AM PST by PGR88
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It’s even worse then we’ve been told...

Just sit right back and you’ll hear a tale,
A tale of a fateful trip
That started from this tropic port
Aboard this tiny ship.

The mate was a mighty sailing man,
The skipper brave and sure.
Five passengers set sail that day
For a three hour tour, a three hour tour.

The weather started getting rough,
The tiny ship was tossed,
If not for the courage of the fearless crew
The Minnow would be lost, the Minnow would be lost.

The ship set ground on the shore of this uncharted desert isle
With Gilligan
The Skipper too,
The millionaire and his wife,
The movie star
The Professor and Mary Ann,*
Here on Gilligan’s Isle.

source: https://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/gilligansislandlyrics.html


4 posted on 11/23/2022 10:08:19 AM PST by patriot torch
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How is this possible? Ukraine is winning the war!! /S


5 posted on 11/23/2022 10:09:22 AM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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And it took a war to do that to Ukraine. California and other states are doing that through the democrat party.


6 posted on 11/23/2022 10:10:19 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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Uke apologist reaction:


7 posted on 11/23/2022 10:11:24 AM PST by AAABEST ( NY/DC/LA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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If they got coal, they got heat.

They are to lazy to dig for it.


8 posted on 11/23/2022 10:19:57 AM PST by crz
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Really an excellent and thorough article. Every delusional Ukraine supporter should read the whole thing; but of course none of them will. That’s how they stay delusional.

Truly tragic how this will end for Ukraine. “Former President Trump said he hopes he is ‘wrong’ about the possibility of World War III because the U.S. is being run by ‘stupid people’ at a rally in Wilmington, N.C. on Friday.

‘I was right about Ukraine. I was right about what, Taiwan and I’m hoping I’m not going to be right about World War Three, because we have stupid people dealing,’ the former president said, as he predicted the U.S. would lose a conflict to Russia.

‘You could end up in World War III and this will be a war like we’ve never had before - won’t even be close, because we’re being run by stupid people.’


9 posted on 11/23/2022 10:22:49 AM PST by Cathi
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And now we know Russia really is a terrorist regime.


11 posted on 11/23/2022 10:28:00 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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Minsk II is looking better and better every day. Unfortunately for the former state of Ukraine, that bridge has literally been burned.


13 posted on 11/23/2022 10:47:06 AM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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Oh but don’t forget Ukraine is winning, our good friends in the media keep telling us that to make it easier to cover up Joey’s blackmail payments.


15 posted on 11/23/2022 10:56:40 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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Throw this new source in the trash. Here’s a tweet from an acquaintance of mine who is in Kiev right now. Lights are on.

https://twitter.com/rangerholton/status/1595490173944487938?s=20&t=S1sMvvbMGo6IzNTBmEKxSg


16 posted on 11/23/2022 10:57:33 AM PST by Rokke
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Just order new transformers. If you put in an order now, you may get replacements by spring or early summer.


19 posted on 11/23/2022 11:07:44 AM PST by D Rider ( )
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“Kiev in complete darkness as power outages continue across entirety of Ukraine following Russian strikes.

ll 3 Ukrainian nuclear power plants forced to make EMERGENCY shutdown, they will be back in operation when energy systems are repaired - Ukrainian state energy giant”
https://twitter.com/dana916/status/1595444943614627842


22 posted on 11/23/2022 11:13:38 AM PST by cranked
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What has been happening this month is just the preparatory efforts on Russia’s part. What is coming next will be the “demilitarization” that Russia has outlined as one of the goals of SMO. The Russian critics have erroneously come to believe that Russia has failed. A wake-up call is on the way...:-(

On a recent podcast, Scott Ritter answers a question

“Well now we have people who say we want to do this with Ukraine. Well right off the bat I want to tell you any time we deal with Russia, let’s put it this way, you can’t solve a problem unless you have properly defined the problem. Any time we are dealing with Russia we need to understand that the United States and our NATO allies don’t understand Russia. We don’t have an accurate assessment of Russia. We’ve under estimated them in some areas and over estimated them in other areas. I’ll give you an example...the Special Military Operation.

Mark Milley briefed Congress that Kiev would fall within 72 hrs. The director of the CIA made a similar assessment. His belief was that Ukraine would collapse in less than a week. Guess who else made that assessment? Me. Why? Because anyone who knows anything about the Russian way of fighting a war would have said that if the Russians come in even with 200,000 troops they come in doctrinally and they smother everything with fire power and overwhelm you with mass and slaughter everything there is nothing the Ukrainians can do to stand up to that.

But, Russia didn’t come in that way. Why? Because see we’re mirror imaging ourselves on Russia. We’re acting as if we are fighting the Iraqis whom we don’t identify with. Therefore we are capable of dehumanizing them to the extent that we have no problem with steamrolling over their troops and killing tens of thousands of them. And afterwards we will have the nightmares and the PTSD and the value of what we have done with hit home. But, at the time they are just ragheads, we’re killing the ragheads and kids, civilians....shame on you for being alive. Boom, boom, boom, we’ll roll through you and we’ll do what we need to do.

But, the Russians are coming in saying “these are our brothers.” See we don’t understand that. We don’t understand the concept of Slavic cultural unity, the identity that during the time of the Soviet Union they literally were brothers; that they fought side by side against NAZI Germany....27 million shared casualties. They have a shared culture, shared history, shared everything. So the Russians don’t want to come in and steamroll. They were trying to do something different, a softer approach and because we don’t understand Russia we misunderstood their softer approach as a sign of weakness. We interpreted it as weakness. At first we said, “Oh, they’re going to steamroll” and when they didn’t steamroll we said, “Gosh, that’s cuz they’re weak; they suck.”

So then we step up and think now we can simply reinforce Ukraine and Russia is going to fold. We don’t understand anything about Russia. The Russians will never fold. I am not saying they are invincible, they are not, but they are willing to step up. It’s like if I wanted to play football. Juan you and I are going to play a football game next year and you know you get your team ready. So you get your team ready and I get my team. And your team if lighting weights all day long, running wind sprints, getting ready running plays. My team is sitting in the bar drinking beer and talking about how good we are. And when we show up on the field your team is going to wipe me off the field because you’ve actually prepared. It may take you time to prepare. Your guys may not be in as good a shape at the beginning but my lifting weights and running you’re there.

The Russians are lifting weights and running. They’re preparing. They are ready for this. We’ve been sitting in the back drinking beer fighting insurgents for twenty years. We think that because we can kick down the door in an Iraqi village we’re somehow superman. We think because we can bomb and Afghan wedding party “God, we’re really good.” But, we’re not; we’re not that good. We’re not; we are a bunch of beer drinking slobs in a bar thinking we can play a football game without actually preparing to play the game. The Russians meanwhile may not be as good as we are in terms of their potential but they are lifting weights every single day; they’re running...they are ready to play. That’s what’s happening right now. The Russians have never given up on this; they are doubling down while we have sat here and we’ve burned up all our resources in fruitless attempts to build this Ukrainian army the Russians have been mobilizing. While we are sitting here talk, talk, talking they are training right now. You’re familiar with the National Training Center in Fort Irwin, California where the army does it’s force on force training...big stuff. Well that’s what the Russians are doing right now. We just don’t follow it in the Western media. But, they’ve got 10 to 15 divisions going through the final preparatory training of getting combat certified.

What are we doing? Nothing; but the other day we sent the 101 airborne division to Romania and everyone’s like “Oh my God the hundred and first.” 4,700 guys, light infantry men on helicopters. We’re going to what? Fly into the most heavily defended air space in the world? We’ve lost our brains. The fact is that NATO has nothing that can take on the Russians.

Look, we thought that we could intimidate Russia just by imposing sanctions. We belittled Russia calling them a gas station disguised as a country. But, if you are going to call your opponent a “gas station disguised as a country” don’t be the car on a freeway in the middle of nowhere with an empty gas tank because that is what happened here. The Russians know energy security better than we do. They know it better than anybody. We thought we could do something but we didn’t define the problem properly. Therefore the solution we were trying to impose...sanctions...backfired. It’s not Russia that is going through an energy crisis right now...its Europe, its the United States. And we made the same mistake on the military. We concluded weakness when it is actually strength. The Russian approach isn’t a sign of weakness, it is a sign of strength. It’s the Russian way of doing things and if you studied Russia you would have known that but we don’t have anybody who does that because we don’t respect Russia anymore. We treat them as they are this little nation and we are insulted that they dare stand up and demand a seat at the table. And what we find is that, you know, we are treating them like children and they are actually adults and they are adults who do the job better than we do. So the reason why people did what they did and do what they do is a combination of arrogance and hubris and ignorance on our part and we totally failed to understand. Sun Tzu said “Know your enemy as you know yourself.” We don’t know our enemy. We know nothing about the Russians. We pretend to, we call it Russophobia. And the way we deal with Russia is say “Russia” and go “Putin...Putin did this, Putin did that.” That’s our response to everything. And if that’s your response it means you are ignorant and you are never going to solve any problems.”


25 posted on 11/23/2022 11:35:51 AM PST by Cathi
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The world must soon make a choice: go nuclear, go fossil fuel or go Biden.


28 posted on 11/23/2022 12:51:08 PM PST by 353FMG (Secretly practicing my Putin swagger..)
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The Russians are losing and running home
The Russians are losing and ..........
Oh wait, never mind


42 posted on 11/23/2022 5:00:00 PM PST by Steven Tyler
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