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To: elpadre

Minsk II is looking better and better every day. Unfortunately for the former state of Ukraine, that bridge has literally been burned.


13 posted on 11/23/2022 10:47:06 AM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: Chunga85

Minsk II was never going to be enacted. Just a ploy on Ukraine’s part to get time to build up forces (which is exactly what they did with the time with our help on our dime.)

Kiev Joined Minsk Peace Process Only to Build Up Army With NATO’s Help, Poroshenko Tells Pranksters
17:59 GMT 17.11.2022 (Updated: 18:24 GMT 17.11.2022)

The former Ukrainian president is directly responsible for the over eight-year-old conflict in Donbass, backtracking on his election pledge to stem growing violence in the country’s east in the spring of 2014, and instead ramping up the war.

The Minsk Peace Accords were just a ploy for time, designed to give Ukraine’s Army a breather and allow it to be built up with NATO assistance following a series of defeats against the Donbass militias, former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has revealed.

“I needed these Minsk Accords to get at least four years to form the Ukrainian Armed Forces, build up the Ukrainian economy and train the Ukrainian military together with NATO to create the best armed forces in Eastern Europe, created according to NATO standards,” Poroshenko told infamous Russian pranksters Vladimir “Vovan” Kuznetsov and Alexei “Lexus” Stolyarov.

Poroshenko told the pranksters, who posed as former US Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, that Kiev doesn’t have the resources to win the present conflict against Russia, and suggested that the key to victory lies in Washington, not Kiev.

“[Vladimir] Putin feels like a macho right now, and he still has significant resources to achieve victory…Our successes on the battlefield are not enough; this is enough to save Ukraine, but this is not enough to weaken Putin,” Poroshenko said, urging the US to ramp up the weapons aid and think up new ways to sanction Moscow.

Russia has “10 times more artillery…30 times more ammunition,” and “significant superiority” in the air, according to the former president. “We need to do everything in our power to supply Ukraine with air defense systems, F-16 and A-10 aircraft, in order to at least balance the offensive potential of Russia, now we have nothing to protect our troops from air strikes,” he said.


17 posted on 11/23/2022 10:57:45 AM PST by Cathi
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