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Searchers find five World War II-era US bombers in waters off Croatia
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| November 21, 2022
| Wyatt Olsen
Posted on 11/23/2022 8:48:33 AM PST by fidelis
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posted on
11/23/2022 8:48:33 AM PST
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fidelis
To: fidelis
Wonder what the depth is? Looks like that diver is loaded up with mixed gas.
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posted on
11/23/2022 8:52:15 AM PST
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Magnum44
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To: fidelis
B-24 Liberator:
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posted on
11/23/2022 8:52:22 AM PST
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fidelis
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To: Magnum44
Wonder what the depth is? You don't have to wonder. According to the article, "the wrecks were found in waters roughly 300 feet deep, which is near the safe maximum depth for divers."
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posted on
11/23/2022 8:56:03 AM PST
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fidelis
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To: fidelis
B-17
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11/23/2022 8:56:39 AM PST
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Red Badger
(Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
To: Magnum44
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posted on
11/23/2022 8:58:32 AM PST
by
TexasGator
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To: fidelis
Well, mea culpa, I didnt read the full article. Interesting picture though. For 300 feet, there is a lot of lighting, but that could be using some really high end camera with some post processing as well.
FYI, 300 feet is safe with proper gas mix and extra training. Most recreational divers are limited to between 75’ and maybe 140’ with decompression stops on the way up when using straight compressed air. Deeper than that and straight air becomes toxic.
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11/23/2022 9:01:28 AM PST
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Magnum44
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To: Magnum44
That’s very interesting. Thanks for the info.
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posted on
11/23/2022 9:03:26 AM PST
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fidelis
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To: fidelis
The B-24 “Witchcraft” is one of a set of planes owned and operated by the Collings Foundation, Keeps history alive! I have a picture of my son from 2009 standing in front of it. As a cub scout leader, we took the pack to the airport here every year when they were in town.
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posted on
11/23/2022 9:04:50 AM PST
by
Joe Brower
("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
To: fidelis
My dad flew as a B24 tailgunner in those campaigns. Flying out of Spinazolla Italy on the boot.
To: fidelis
These planes came from the attacks most likely from the raid on Ploesti Oil Fields, a force of 177 planes attacked and 54 lost outright with another 55 damaged and some of those ditched at sea on the trip back..Single worse loss up that point in the war.
To: Joe Brower
Good for them. I just LOVE hearing and watching the old girls fly!
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11/23/2022 9:17:10 AM PST
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fidelis
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To: DaxtonBrown
My dad flew as a B24 tailgunner in those campaigns. Flying out of Spinazolla Italy on the boot. God bless him for his service.
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11/23/2022 9:18:27 AM PST
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fidelis
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To: fidelis
Reason for using only the B-24 was had longer range than the B-17 and carried bigger load than the B-17. Flew like a truck without power steering. Ditching at sea or crash landing on land was extremely risky as the plane had a high wing and roll up bomb bay doors which acted as a brake and ripped the plane apart.
To: fidelis
The kids ate it up. They also usually had a B-25, P-51 and sometimes a B-17. My brother was a nut about WW1 and WW2 aircraft when we were kids, and I soaked up enough by osmosis to give a pretty good 5-minute lecture on what those brave men and these planes did so long ago. They saved civilization.
When in the B-17, I'd always point out the ball turret position and ask tell the kids what it must have felt like to be trapped in that for the whole long, cold flight. I recited "The Death of the Ball Turret Gunner" from memory. I still can.
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11/23/2022 9:25:53 AM PST
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Joe Brower
("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
To: dpetty121263
Sounds spot on! The main reason for the invasion of Italy was to take over a dozen or so airfields that would have the oil fields and some other Axis-controlled industry in the Balkans in their flight radius.
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posted on
11/23/2022 9:27:06 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
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To: Red Badger
Sidebar: the B-24 was somewhat more likely to be shot down, as it had a lower flight ceiling than the B-17.
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11/23/2022 9:28:04 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Thanks fidelis. This has been a busy GGG week, I think the busiest in some time.
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11/23/2022 9:29:28 AM PST
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SunkenCiv
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To: DaxtonBrown
My uncle was a B-24 tailgunner as well, would be funny if they knew each other!
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posted on
11/23/2022 9:41:21 AM PST
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CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing
You never know. There is a Facebook Group, 460th Bomb Group, that might interest you.
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