Posted on 11/20/2022 12:59:09 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27
Snowfall across Ukraine is signaling the official arrival of winter, setting up a dangerous chapter in the war with Russia as Moscow targets Ukraine’s power and energy supplies to deprive the country of heat and electricity.
Anna Grigolaya, the operations manager in the city of Dnipro for the American Jewish Joint Distribution Committee (JDC), said the situation will be critical for millions of Ukrainians suffering through more regular and sustained blackouts.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
My forces are living in other states nitwit. It ends when we stop the money and the weapons. Can’t fight a war with spitballs.
Honestly you Ukraine stooges are such funny clowns.
“All that President Putin has done, our country goaded him into as an excuse to destroy Russia for The Great Reset.”
So, assuming you are right: Is Putin so weak, so feckless, so clueless as to be goaded into a war against his next-door neighbor?
“Excuse me, I don’t talk to foreigners.”
Then you’re a bigot. What’s more: You’re an ignorant bigot.
“You think Kiev will quit killing East Ukrainians of the independent Republics of Donetsk, Luhansk? They haven’t stopped for 8 years after the Revolution?”
You think the separatists will stop killing those who do not go along with their program?
How dare you.
Truth ! ! !
“Unwittingly, you just described Russia’s proxy war with NATO. Keep trying Sparky, the light might come on.”
Nice try, Sparky.
You will note that I said IF there were a proxy war...IF, brother; IF. IF implies a conditional premise. In other words, it is not declarative or definitive; it is mere supposition.
Keep trying, Sparky. One day you’ll get it.
The east and south didn’t vote for Revolutionary overthrow of their country. When voters are disenfranchised, they are obligated to secede.
I’ll repeat it: You’re a bigot. You’re a xenophobe. Your own words condemned you, Sparky.
“I mean, give us real evidence, not supposition and innuendo and wishful thinking.”
Who the hell do you think did it? You are a mincer of words in the habit of floating out these implausible bits, one after another, over and over again, to support the outcome you desire. An outcome that would be bad for everyone and an outcome that will not happen.
What you are saying and how you say it does not survive even a little criticism. You are relevant in your mind only, sitting on the sidelines, yapping.
“The east and south didn’t vote for Revolutionary overthrow of their country. When voters are disenfranchised, they are obligated to secede.”
The Ukrainian constitution provides for such autonomy or separation. That’s what Ukraine insisted on years ago: that the Ukrainian constitution be followed. The separatists, and their sponsor, Russia, pitched a screaming fit, and blocked such a plebiscite.
“Who the hell do you think did it?”
I don’t know who did it. I’ve been saying since it happened that I don’t know who did it.
“You are a mincer of words in the habit of floating out these implausible bits, one after another, over and over again, to support the outcome you desire. An outcome that would be bad for everyone and an outcome that will not happen.”
What “implausible bits?” Please list them.
“What you are saying and how you say it does not survive even a little criticism. You are relevant in your mind only, sitting on the sidelines, yapping.”
So, criticize my comments...using logic, not emotion. I look forward to it.
agree....they have had independent status for years.
I don't give a care for Ukraine. I want us out of these shenanigans and I would like the WEF, Klaus Schwab lackey, Zelenskyy to disappear for his desire to destroy the world at every turn, just as much as I want the other principals to disappear too. Stop attempting to parse my words or trip me up. This insanity must stop!
Did you even watch the video of John McCain and Lindsey Graham talking to the Ukrainian soldiers with their Ukrainian President Poroshenko in 2016 telling them they will attack Russia in 2017 with the blessings and support from the United States?
President Trump stopped the plan until the Democrats cheated to get him out of the White House.
You were duped or you are part of the conspiracy to dupe the rest of us.
Which is it?
McCain And Graham Caught Inciting Ukraine To Attack Russia
Translation of the caption on the video from the President of Ukraine:
President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko together with American senators near ShirokinoIn August 2016, Petro Poroshenko, the President of Ukraine, awarded McCain with the highest award for foreigners, the Order of Liberty.
The map shows that without considering Crimea the Russians still have a Black Sea coast line between the Sea of Azov and Georgia. I don't know the geography there nor the resources it already has. Building a port from scratch may not be cheap, and perhaps isn't always possible. But its been tried successfully for 2000+ years. For the cost of this current war Russia could have afforded a hell of a lot of infrastructure building. The old Soviets were not shy about taking on very large infrastructure projects.
As far as the other two oblasts in the 2014 war they possessed significant mineral wealth, which Khrushchev had inconveniently given away to Ukraine decades before, and significant industrial infrastructure. And a large population of culturally Russians moved there by the Soviets to run and administer it. Rather than stealing back the land they'd gifted after the Soviet version of the Russian empire collapsed in the name of those transferees, the Russians, with their declining population of ethnic Russians, could have welcomed back any such wanting to emigrate and use them to run the vast mineral resources already present in officially Russian territory and to expand the seemingly deficient infrastructure therein.
So, assuming you are right: Is Putin so weak, so feckless, so clueless as to be goaded into a war against his next-door neighbor?
What does that have to do with the price of beans in China?
We need to stop our part of this proxy war that we have no national security interest in which was started by US.
Didn’t the Russians concentrate on knocking out the power and water when they first invaded?
Please stop. You're very angry tonight.
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