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The Donetsk Separatist Army Went To War In Ukraine With 20,000 Men. Statistically, Almost Every Single One Was Killed Or Wounded.
Forbes ^ | November 18, 2022 | David Axe

Posted on 11/18/2022 6:00:04 PM PST by Timber Rattler

In nine months of brutal fighting, the army of the pro-Russian Donetsk People’s Republic in eastern Ukraine’s Donbas region has buried or sent to the hospital as many men as it had in its entire pre-war army.

The separatist DPR began Russia’s wider war on Ukraine in February with around 20,000 men in six light infantry brigades. By November, the army had lost 3,746 killed in action and 15,794 wounded in action, according to the DPR’s ombudsman.

That’s 19,540 KIAs or WIAs. While many of the wounded undoubtedly returned to front-line service, many didn’t. And yes, the DPR army has expanded over the course of the nine-month wider war through the forced mobilization of thousands of men from the separatist state’s 2.3 million population.

But even if the DPR army doubled in size, losing half its ultimate manpower is still catastrophic.

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Russian leaders seem to view DPR men as cannon fodder. “They don't count us, they leave us,” one drunk Donetsk fighter complained in a video that went viral in August. “But I want to live."

(Excerpt) Read more at forbes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 0timberisahomo; 0trolltimber; davidaxe; europe; nato; ukraine; war
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To: Timber Rattler

For comparison purposes:

The US went into World War II with an army of 2.2 million. Casualties totaled 565,861.


21 posted on 11/18/2022 8:24:41 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Timber Rattler

Your propaganda reeks of desperation. Sad.

Pooty Poot is turning off the lights in the Ukraine.


22 posted on 11/18/2022 8:24:44 PM PST by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.c)
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To: nickcarraway; Right_Wing_Madman

nickcarraway, are you pure communist neocon?


23 posted on 11/18/2022 8:26:26 PM PST by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.c)
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To: nickcarraway
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If you survive your first day, I'll promote you."

So promised George Wilson's World War II commanding officer in the hedgerows of Normandy -- and it was to be a promise dramatically fulfilled. From July, 1944, to the closing days of the war, from the first penetration of the Siegfried Line to the Nazis' last desperate charge in the Battle of the Bulge, Wilson fought in the thickest of the action, helping take the small towns of northern France and Belgium building by building.
Of all the men and officers who started out in Company F of the 4th Infantry Division with him, Wilson was the only one who finished.
24 posted on 11/18/2022 8:31:50 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: minnesota_bound

In that case the enemy killed those men, right? Russians killed their own nen.


25 posted on 11/18/2022 8:52:52 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: WMarshal

I am not a neocon, but I don’t think that word has any meaning anymore. But I’m not a globalist warmonger anti-American like you.


26 posted on 11/18/2022 8:53:47 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: WMarshal

If you think communist countries are better than the United States then why don’t you move there?


27 posted on 11/18/2022 8:54:09 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Timber Rattler

“Ukraine war veterans on how Kiev plundered US aid, wasted soldiers, endangered civilians, and lost the war”
https://thegrayzone.com/2022/08/18/ukraine-veterans-us-aid-soldiers-war/

“A Ukrainian’s Letter from the Front
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94RYVNg9bfA

‘Ukrainian General estimates Kiev’s losses at hundreds of thousands since Feb’
https://tass.com/politics/1501881

‘UKRAINIAN BATTLE LOSSES REVEALED’
https://seemorerocks.is/ukrainian-battle-losses-revealed/

“Wounded Ukrainian soldiers reveal steep toll of Kherson offensive - ‘We lost five people for every one they did’”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/09/07/ukraine-kherson-offensive-casualties-ammunition/

‘In Ukraine’s South, Fierce Fighting and Deadly Costs’
https://archive.ph/MtHyd#selection-383.0-383.52

“Kharkov Offensive: “You Can Always Regain Territory—You Cannot Regain Human Lives.” - Jacques Baud”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6GFaOQOpEs

“The Limits of Ukraine’s Offensive and the High Price to Pay When it Ends”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pONjlORXdFQ

“The irretrievable losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine as of October 20, 2022 amounted to 402,000 people , of which 387,000 were killed...”
https://t.me/nologica/5535

“War and Regrets in Ukraine - at least 400,000 Ukrainian battlefield casualties including 100,000 soldiers killed in action”
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/war-and-regrets-in-ukraine/

‘Putin: losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine reach the ratio of one to seven or one to eight’
https://ria.ru/20221027/vsu-1827349540.html?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop

“Only 1 out of 13 Ukrainian Servicemen Survives. They Even Do Not See Russians, just Sea of Fire”
https://rumble.com/v1molmc-only-1-out-of-13-ukrainian-servicemen-survives.-wokenato-even-do-not-see-ru.html

“The average lifespan of a Ukrainian mobilized recruit now is approximately 10 days — from the time he is grabbed off the street to the time he falls on the battlefield.
Foreign mercenaries—which by and large have become regular Polish and Romanian (and other NATO countries’) troops masquerading as “volunteers” — loath the idea of being used as cannon fodder and behave as regular colonial expeditionary forces.”
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/17146

Ukrainian military expert, Oleg Zhdanov, said that the Armed Forces of Ukraine have nothing to attack Kherson
“The Ukrainian army is suffering huge losses. There is a shortage of personnel, insufficiently mobilized, a shortage of military equipment.
https://twitter.com/SprinterMonitor/status/1585241881604403202


28 posted on 11/18/2022 9:45:27 PM PST by cranked
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To: WMarshal

Pooptin has been trying to do that for months now. Each time the Ukrainians get the lights back up in a few days to a couple of weeks


29 posted on 11/18/2022 10:40:14 PM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: WMarshal; nickcarraway

Nick is neither communist nor a neocon.


30 posted on 11/18/2022 10:41:14 PM PST by Cronos (.)
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To: PAR35

The true number of Americans killed in WW2 has never actually been tabulated but some figures put it at around 407,000.


31 posted on 11/18/2022 11:34:11 PM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: Timber Rattler

one has to cast doubt on the numbers here as the DNR/LNR are both run by Russian officers, not known for their truthfulness. Case in point: the officers sent the DNR/LNR troops on frontal charges, aka suicide attacks, against well fortified UA positions, they were slaughtered, and their bodies left were they lay rotting. They were never counted or accounted for - no one cared.

At some point, much later, if the UA had taken the ground, UA took the bodies away for burial. One has to suppose that if the UA did not take the ground, the bodies were bulldozed into mass graves bu Russian forces.

20,000 casualties is just a starter. DPR’s ombudsman: who only says what he’s told to say by the Russians.


32 posted on 11/19/2022 2:52:23 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: jmacusa

407,000 is as close as one can get, given that bodies are not always in one piece and some were not even that ‘together’, if they were even found. Of the 407,000, the number of Army AF that were killed was 80,000.


33 posted on 11/19/2022 2:58:32 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Timber Rattler

There are Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics.


34 posted on 11/19/2022 3:57:03 AM PST by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: minnesota_bound

That was a great book; read it years ago.


35 posted on 11/19/2022 4:28:28 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Timber Rattler

yes,they each died twice after eating dog
tim burrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
go troll elsewhere


36 posted on 11/19/2022 7:51:01 AM PST by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: ARW

You must be new to the discussions about any article regarding the Russian/Ukraine war and the avid Putin supporters remarks and responses.


37 posted on 11/19/2022 8:34:12 AM PST by jdsteel (PA voters elected a stroke victim and a dead guy. Not a joke.)
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To: jdsteel

At least since Russia started retreating enmass, Vodka infused commie BobL is isn’t ranting daily about the superiority of the Russian Army (not over Ukraine’s Army of software programmers and VW factory workers, but ALL armies).


38 posted on 11/19/2022 8:55:33 AM PST by UNGN
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To: PIF

The largest loss of American life in WW2 was during the Normandy Campaign from June 1944 though to the end of August ‘44. Some 29,000 men were killed, wounded or captured.

Have you ever been to the WW2 Memorial in DC?

I have. It’s beautiful.


39 posted on 11/19/2022 10:38:00 AM PST by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: jmacusa

Normandy Campaign from June 1944


Fun fact: In the Normandy landing in the first hour, 4,000 men were killed.


40 posted on 11/19/2022 12:15:36 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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