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DeSantis won, but DeSantis-ism lost His politics played well in Florida, but failed elsewhere. (Too Conservative!)
MSNBC ^ | Nov. 16, 2022, 1:36 PM EST | By Michael A. Cohen

Posted on 11/17/2022 1:05:30 PM PST by Pxzftrnqfrn

“We fight the woke in the legislature. We fight the woke in the schools. We fight the woke in the corporations. We will never, ever surrender to the woke mob. Florida is where woke goes to die.”

With these fighting words, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis hailed his sweeping re-election victory last week. DeSantis trounced his opponent, Democrat Charlie Crist, by 1.5 million votes. The blatant gerrymander he masterminded helped Republicans flip four House seats in the state. The results leave little doubt that Florida is now firmly a red state and that he is the non-Trump front-runner for the 2024 presidential nomination.

But while Tuesday was a big win for DeSantis, it was a loser for "DeSantis-ism." His war on wokeness, attacks on liberals, and divisive culture war politics played well in Florida, but elsewhere it landed with a resounding thud. 

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cohen; conservatism; desantis; fakenews; fl; florida; michaelacohen; msdnc; mslsd; msnbc; msnbs; pmsnbc; tds; trump; whatdoestheastandfor
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This should warm the hearts of those reading about how DeSantis is supposedly some GOPe liberal plant whose election was fixed (yes, there are some here posting this nonsense)

More than one person can be a conservative. Not everyone who isn't Trump is a GOPe stooge. People other than Trump can also be a thorn in the liberal side.

1 posted on 11/17/2022 1:05:30 PM PST by Pxzftrnqfrn
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn

MSNBC is engaging in WISHFUL THINKING and they’re whistling past the 2024 graveyard.


2 posted on 11/17/2022 1:09:35 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX.)
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn

Strange. I don’t think MSN would have accused Florida of being mega conservative 4 - 6 years ago.

What are the afraid of?

That the things DeSantis did for Florida, like open up early after covid, would play well to a lot of people... maybe?

You always have to ask yourself, why do they write what they do.
In this case, they want to will it into being.


3 posted on 11/17/2022 1:10:40 PM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn

I thought DeSantis is the most leftwing governor in the U.S.?


4 posted on 11/17/2022 1:10:44 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn

DeSantis and similar camidates play well in places without mail in voting fraud.


5 posted on 11/17/2022 1:10:52 PM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn
In the face of a guaranteed DeSantis victory, the national DNC vote fraud machine pulled all its troops from Florida to deploy elsewhere.

This is obvious.

6 posted on 11/17/2022 1:11:20 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn

reagan was going to start WW3, then reasonable after office

bush was just a warmonger, then reasonable after office

w bush was evil idiot, then reasonable after office

McCain was reasonable in senate when voting with dems, then evil when running, then reasonable afterwards.

Romney was evil in weird underwater when running, then reasonable afterwards.

Trump was loved by the democrats, but suddenly became a racist when he ran as a Republican, then became an insurrectionist and an election denier.

DeSantis is DeSatan if Florida, but when comparing with Trump, he is reasonable, but if he becomes the nominee will suddenly be worse than trump and DeSatin again.


7 posted on 11/17/2022 1:11:41 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn

Incumbents won just about everywhere. If you have a seat, you can get away with saying a lot of things that challengers can’t.


8 posted on 11/17/2022 1:12:18 PM PST by x
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn

WHY DO WE EVEN CARE WHAT MSNBC SAYS?

They have a tiny audience, and we amplify that every time we repeat “MSNBC Says...” or “CNN says...”

Who cares what they say?


9 posted on 11/17/2022 1:13:14 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare its ? And the ambassador to Ukraineelf)
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn

<< “failed elsewhere” >>

Only in Dem-run states that don’t have fair elections. DeSantis made sure Florida’s were on the level.


10 posted on 11/17/2022 1:14:12 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. K

When Big Media speaks, I hear only the sound of flatulence.


11 posted on 11/17/2022 1:14:18 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn

Some of the places where conservatism lost were also places where free and fair elections aren’t the norm.


12 posted on 11/17/2022 1:15:21 PM PST by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn

The left is already beginning to attack Desantis because he is a threat to their stranglehold on power. They will transform him into an image of hitler and repeat it over and over.


13 posted on 11/17/2022 1:16:21 PM PST by I want the USA back (Our news media isn't worth camel spit. Neither is the democrat party. H)
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To: z3n
"That the things DeSantis did for Florida, like open up early after covid, would play well to a lot of people... maybe?"

DeSantis turned blue into red. He is a leader with a positive message. The left is very afraid of him.

14 posted on 11/17/2022 1:16:38 PM PST by TexasGator (!!!)
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn

The red wave happened in Fla because Ron Locked out the voter fraud. That is the truth and there were news outlets that were actually reporting that truth for a couple of days. That story is dead now. Completely dead. Maybe Tucker but that’s it.


15 posted on 11/17/2022 1:18:08 PM PST by gibsonguy
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn
More than one person can be a conservative. Not everyone who isn't Trump is a GOPe stooge. People other than Trump can also be a thorn in the liberal side.

If, as you say, he isn't "a GOPe stooge", then he needs to stop taking the money of the Globalist/Establishment money men to run in 2024 against Trump.

Furthermore, he needs to show More loyalty to Trump, without whose help, he would not have been elected the first time, and come out and flat-out state he will not be running in 2024 since Trump has declared his candidacy.

Otherwise, he is exactly that, a eGOP Stooge.
16 posted on 11/17/2022 1:20:41 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: nickcarraway

Hello?


17 posted on 11/17/2022 1:22:40 PM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn

Yeah, because MSNBC never pulls a fast one on Conservatives.

Ever!

I’m not making an argument here, but seriously, MSNBC?


18 posted on 11/17/2022 1:23:53 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the U S of A, and the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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To: gibsonguy
The red wave happened in Fla because Ron Locked out the voter fraud. That is the truth and there were news outlets that were actually reporting that truth for a couple of days. That story is dead now. Completely dead. Maybe Tucker but that’s it.

The red wave happened in states where they didn't try or couldn't try fraud.

An example of the first scenario is NYS. An example of the second scenario is FL.

Place where the red wave didn't happen because of fraud? AZ, MI, NV, NH are examples.

19 posted on 11/17/2022 1:25:04 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Pxzftrnqfrn

Good points all.


20 posted on 11/17/2022 1:26:53 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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