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townhall.com ^ | 11/16/2022 | John Stossel

Posted on 11/16/2022 7:25:18 AM PST by rktman

Even worse, today politicians make us pay more for energy while forcing us to do things that hurt the environment. Their restrictions on fossil fuels drive people to use fuels that pollute more.

In Europe: "They're going back to burning coal! What we've done is have our energy systems designed by bureaucrats instead of engineers," complains Mills. "We get worse energy, more expensive energy and higher environmental impacts!"

I like electric cars. But I won't pretend that driving one makes me some kind of environmental hero.

"There'll be lots more electric cars in the future," concludes Mills. "There should be, because that'll reduce demand for oil, which is a good thing. But when you do the math, to operate a society with 5 or 6 billion people who are living in poverty we can't imagine, when you want to give them a little of what we have, the energy demands are off the charts big. We're going to need everything."

That includes fossil fuels.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: dumbassery; nonissue
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Butt, butt, butt....... FR-EVers in 3,....2,...... šŸ˜ŽšŸ‘
1 posted on 11/16/2022 7:25:18 AM PST by rktman
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2 posted on 11/16/2022 7:27:55 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: rktman

Let the FR EVers chime in. They like their cars, and can make their points, too. Keep us who either don’t like them or see them as a niche product propped by government regs sharp and honest.


3 posted on 11/16/2022 7:27:59 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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LOL! I fully understand that they work awesome for some people in some circumstances. Even the FR EVers. It’s the constant lie that they are a panacea for a non existent issue that gets my goat. Or pig. Or racoon or whatever. šŸ˜ŽšŸ‘


4 posted on 11/16/2022 7:31:11 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? šŸ˜•)
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“Engineers are really good at making things better,” Mills responds, “but they can’t make them better than the laws of physics permit.”

We MUST REPEAL THOSE DAMNABLE LAWS PRONTO. Maybe the New congress will get right on it!...............


5 posted on 11/16/2022 7:40:21 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Inconvenient fact 4:

Miracle batteries powerful enough to replace fossil fuels are a fantasy.

We’ll have Star Trek transporter first...........


6 posted on 11/16/2022 7:42:21 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: rktman

ChiComs have the right approach for their resources.
Switch the populace to battery cars powered by coal power plants.
Conserve petroleum fuels for military.


7 posted on 11/16/2022 7:43:42 AM PST by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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Lucky for us our military has the SPR for emergency use if the need were to........oh!


8 posted on 11/16/2022 7:49:19 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? šŸ˜•)
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I suspect there’s a hell of a lot more fossil fuels than lithium and all the other rare earth materials needed for batteries.


9 posted on 11/16/2022 7:55:03 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Always remember the US dollar is tied to petroleum as he world reserve currency. Harm the oil industry and you harm the dollar. That’s what the ev push is for. Not the green smoke and mirrors.


10 posted on 11/16/2022 8:05:10 AM PST by Cowman
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“Let the FR EVers chime in.”

I want to hear how many of them ONLY own EVs.


11 posted on 11/16/2022 8:14:28 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: Cowman

The article has a few mistakes. 1000 / 80 is 12.5, so gasoline is “only” 1250% more concentrated than batteries, not 5,000%.
Also, the land area of solar panels required to replace all our electricity is maybe 100,000 square miles, the country is 3 million square miles. That being said, all the paved surface of the US is about 60,000 square miles, so it’s absurd to think we should replace an electricity system that functions 99.9% of the time with solar arrays more than all the roads and building constructed in the last 100 years to get electricty which doesn’t work 70 percent of the time.


12 posted on 11/16/2022 8:15:14 AM PST by brookwood (Government discriminates against you, and if you complain, calls you a racist.)
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To: rktman

I go and charge up once a week or so. I talk to the guys there.
To a man, they smile great big and talk about comfort, gadgetry,
range and how much they love their cars.

Not once has global warming been mentioned. The same goes
for saving the planet, reducing smog, or rising sea levels.

Folks watch the idiot children in the streets and their acolytes
In the media and think they understand EV owners. Folks,
that’s I’m pretty sure you’ve been misled by people whose
jobs it is to mislead you.

None of those kids on the street could afford a car, let alone
an electric one, and those media types average IQs have dropped
considerably over the last few decades.


13 posted on 11/16/2022 8:17:38 AM PST by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the U S of A, and the REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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I want to hear how many of them ONLY own EVs.
Yes. This.
I guess none.
14 posted on 11/16/2022 8:18:56 AM PST by citizen (The pResident On Hot Mic With Florida Official: ā€˜No One F**ks With A Biden’)
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I’d like to have a small one like a Nissan Leaf for putting around town, but way too expensive.


15 posted on 11/16/2022 8:20:18 AM PST by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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Imo, if you want electric, hybrids are the way to go.
Reportedly, Toyota agrees and are maintaining their hybrid fleet rather than going whole hog on EVs.


16 posted on 11/16/2022 8:25:15 AM PST by citizen (The pResident On Hot Mic With Florida Official: ā€˜No One F**ks With A Biden’)
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are = is...grrr


17 posted on 11/16/2022 8:25:57 AM PST by citizen (The pResident On Hot Mic With Florida Official: ā€˜No One F**ks With A Biden’)
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Yes I wanted a RAV4 plug-in but the dealers are adding outrageous markups over sticker.


18 posted on 11/16/2022 8:26:47 AM PST by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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It is said - rightly or not, I do not know - that the auto companies simply add the taxpayer subsidy to the list prices of their EV models.


19 posted on 11/16/2022 8:30:11 AM PST by citizen (The pResident On Hot Mic With Florida Official: ā€˜No One F**ks With A Biden’)
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That’s true too.
But this was deal markup BEYOND the sticker price.
It’s a fine vehicle but out of my price range.


20 posted on 11/16/2022 8:31:56 AM PST by nascarnation (Let's go Brandon!)
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