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No. (National Review weighs in)
National Review ^ | 11/15/2022 | Editors

Posted on 11/15/2022 7:57:51 PM PST by semimojo

To paraphrase Voltaire after he attended an orgy, once was an experiment, twice would be perverse.

A bruised Donald Trump announced a new presidential bid on Tuesday night, an invitation to double down on the outrages and failures of the last several years that Republicans should reject without hesitation or doubt.

To his credit, Trump killed off the Clinton dynasty in 2016, nominated and got confirmed three constitutionalist justices, reformed taxes, pushed deregulation, got control of the border, significantly degraded ISIS in Syria and Iraq, and cinched normalization deals between Israel and the Gulf states, among other things. These are achievements that even his conservative doubters and critics — including NR — can acknowledge and applaud.

That said, the Trump administration was chaotic even on its best days because of his erratic nature and lack of seriousness. He often acted as if he were a commentator on his own presidency, and issued orders on Twitter and in other off-the-cuff statements that were ignored. He repeatedly had to be talked out of disastrous ideas by his advisers and Republican elected officials. He turned on cabinet officials and aides on a dime. Trump had a limited understanding of our constitutional system, and at the end of the day, little respect for it. His inability to approximate the conduct that the public expects of a president undermined him from beginning to end.

The latter factor played an outsized role in his narrow defeat to a feeble Joe Biden in 2020 in what was a winnable race. Of course, unable to cope with the humiliation of the loss, he pursued a shameful attempt to overturn the result of the election. He didn’t come close to succeeding, but it wasn’t for lack of trying. The episode ended with Trump, in a grotesque abuse of his powers, trying to bully Vice President Pence into unilaterally delaying or changing the count of electoral votes on January 6 and with an inflamed pro-Trump mob storming the Capitol while the president gave no indication that he particularly minded.

In the midst of this, he threw away two Georgia Senate seats in a fit of pique over Governor Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger refusing to bend to his will. The resulting loss of Senate control allowed Biden to get trillions of dollars in spending that he wouldn’t have gotten otherwise and confirm large numbers of progressive judges.

Since then, Trump has maintained his grip on the party and done all he can to force it to accept his delusions and lies about the 2020 election — boosting conspiracy theorists and fanatics and targeting for defeat, with considerable success, anyone pushing back too hard against him or his obsessions.

Trump’s success in imposing his fixations and candidate choices on the GOP played a large role in the GOP debacle in the midterms. This political backdrop raises the possibility that his low-energy announcement speech may be a damp squib.

Certainly, GOP voters should give up on the idea that Trump is a winner. After securing the GOP nomination with plurality support in 2016, Trump didn’t exceed 47 percent in either of his campaigns, winning in 2016 with 46.1 percent and losing in 2020 with 46.8. This is, to the say the least, a very narrow electoral path, and one must assume that with all that’s transpired since 2020, Trump is weaker than in his first two races.

The party’s position has significantly eroded under his hegemony. When Trump announced his first campaign in 2015, Republicans were coming off a historic wave election, which brought them to 54 Senate seats, and 247 House seats. Republicans then lost the House in 2018, lost the Senate in 2020, and blew a chance for large gains this year. Now, they are looking at 49 or 50 Senate seats, and a razor-thin margin of control of the House of Representatives. On top of this, Republicans had 31 governorships; they now have 25, and have lost crucial ground in state legislatures, too.

A lesson of the midterms was that association with Trump and “stop the steal” were liabilities, and no one is more associated with both of those things than Donald Trump himself. Democrats helped choose MAGA candidates that were eminently defeatable in GOP primaries this year, and nominating Trump — whom Democrats are pining to run against again — in 2024 would replicate this experience on a much larger scale.

Needless to say, Trump is a magnetic political figure who has managed to bond countless millions of Republicans to him. Many GOP voters appreciate his combativeness and hate his enemies, who so often engaged in excesses in pursuit of him. Once he won the nomination in 2016, they understandably voted for him in 2016 and 2020, given the alternatives. But the primaries won’t present a choice between Trump and progressives with calamitous priorities for the nation, but other Republicans who aren’t, in contrast to him, monumentally selfish or morally and electorally compromised. (And it should be added, won’t be 78 years old if elected and ineligible to serve two terms.)

It’s too early to know what the rest of the field will look like, except it will offer much better alternatives than Trump.

The answer to Trump’s invitation to remain personally and politically beholden to him and his cracked obsessions for at least another two years, with all the chaos that entails and the very real possibility of another highly consequential defeat, should be a firm, unmistakable, No.


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To: semimojo

Bullcrap. 2020 was a stolen election. There is no moving on from that. He must get the term he was given by America. It is the only way of justice.


21 posted on 11/15/2022 8:09:30 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: semimojo

Pretty much every sentence of this is a lie.


22 posted on 11/15/2022 8:09:55 PM PST by Tom in SFCA
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To: Governor Dinwiddie; mewzilla

😂


23 posted on 11/15/2022 8:10:25 PM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: semimojo

RINO Review has put out its two cents worth that no one has cared about for years. Their irrelevance is obvious but, apparently, the RINO Bush wing of the party are buying enough of their nonsense to keep them in business.


24 posted on 11/15/2022 8:11:14 PM PST by ocrp1982
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To: semimojo
The episode ended with Trump, in a grotesque abuse of his powers, trying to bully Vice President Pence into unilaterally delaying or changing the count of electoral votes on January 6 and with an inflamed pro-Trump mob storming the Capitol while the president gave no indication that he particularly minded.

So they buy into the J6 lie, ignoring the fact that Trump called for his supporters to remain peaceful and offered Nancy Pelosi additional security, which she turned down.

25 posted on 11/15/2022 8:11:56 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: semimojo

National Review is full of girly boys.

Girly boys can’t make America great again.

What good are these conservative girly boys again?


26 posted on 11/15/2022 8:12:46 PM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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To: semimojo

I’d rather read Mother Jones. I hate these elitist pukes.


27 posted on 11/15/2022 8:16:27 PM PST by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: semimojo

Eat it, NR. On his worst day, Donald J Trump was and is far better than the POS in the white hut, Joe Biteme.

FJB, always, FJb!


28 posted on 11/15/2022 8:16:42 PM PST by BatGuano (2020 = Stolen Election. Believe it! Molon Labe.)
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To: semimojo

NRO refuses to “get” the big picture. Like all anti-Trumpers.


29 posted on 11/15/2022 8:17:36 PM PST by toddausauras (Trump 2024....Go down swinging!)
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To: semimojo
To his credit, Trump killed off the Clinton dynasty in 2016, nominated and got confirmed three constitutionalist justices, reformed taxes, pushed deregulation, got control of the border, significantly degraded ISIS in Syria and Iraq, and cinched normalization deals between Israel and the Gulf states

I'm trying to think of another president during my lifetime with a comparable record of accomplishment, and I can't. And NR is using this as an argument against Trump?
30 posted on 11/15/2022 8:17:51 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: moovova
Might as well make it two yeses (sic). Eunice Gayson as Sylvia Trench.


31 posted on 11/15/2022 8:17:54 PM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: semimojo

Did you notice its ‘group written’ by the ‘editors’? Showing a little backbone would have been different.

Trump’s got my vote so to hell with ‘the editors’...


32 posted on 11/15/2022 8:20:22 PM PST by GOPJ ( Networks need camera crews in black communities too. Watch turnout and comments. Harlem? Chicago? )
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To: Fiji Hill

“So they buy into the J6 lie, ignoring the fact that Trump called for his supporters to remain peaceful and offered Nancy Pelosi additional security, which she turned down.”

National Review is full of the same people that are running our country into a globalist toilet.
They are proponents of make America an irrelevant “woke import powerhouse” economically.

Older conservatives ditched these warmongering clowns years ago, their only hope for relevancy is Young College Republicans- Which is a young naive group of people, so NR most likely isn’t going away.


33 posted on 11/15/2022 8:20:47 PM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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To: semimojo

Does anybody read NRO anymore they have like 6 subscribers now and their old readers all pretty much just read the Lincoln Project now


34 posted on 11/15/2022 8:21:28 PM PST by Lod881019
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To: semimojo

>Looks like the Noers are the new Never Trumpers.

The *new* Never Trumpers? This was the group that dedicated a whole issue to “Against Trump.” They haven’t changed.


35 posted on 11/15/2022 8:21:31 PM PST by No.6
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To: semimojo

The aristocrats have spoken.


36 posted on 11/15/2022 8:23:07 PM PST by Bloodandgravy (I perceived that this also is vexation.)
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To: semimojo

I’m agnostic about Trump as the nominee, and am willing to see what Republican primary voters decide.

I’m sick and tired of the never-Trumpers acting as if they aren’t.


37 posted on 11/15/2022 8:25:00 PM PST by jdsteel (PA voters elected a stroke victim and a dead guy. Not a joke.)
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To: grey_whiskers

lol- send that to NR-


38 posted on 11/15/2022 8:25:31 PM PST by Bob434 (question)
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To: semimojo
As long as the GOP is weak and useless (and likely corrupt), Trump will remain relevant. I don't see how he wins in 2024 if he wasn't allowed to win in 2020, but I don't have a problem with him running.
39 posted on 11/15/2022 8:27:14 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (To solve the Democrat problem, the RINO problem must first be solved.)
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To: BenLurkin

Psy-ops from the RINOs. Gaslighting their way to save the GOP from MAGA people.


40 posted on 11/15/2022 8:33:05 PM PST by dragonblustar (Romans 12:12)
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