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1 posted on 11/11/2022 8:05:43 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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hybrids enable you to go when coal fireds strand you on the hi-way


2 posted on 11/11/2022 8:09:17 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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Oh yeah. Toyota doesn’t know how to do R&D? They don’t know how to play the long game? Don’t know how to make money?
Get outta here!!


3 posted on 11/11/2022 8:12:53 PM PST by Honest Nigerian
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The problem with the EVs is that there is not enough material to make batteries for near as many cars as Toyota produces.


5 posted on 11/11/2022 8:14:01 PM PST by NorseViking
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So a YouBoober who makes his living pushing EVs thinks Toyota will go the way of Kodak for not joining the cult. Sure.

It's more conceivable that Toyota (and Nissan) will actually be ahead of the curve as they are embracing a technology that could actually be a true alternative, hydrogen.

6 posted on 11/11/2022 8:15:00 PM PST by Frank Drebin (And don't ever let me catch you guys in America!)
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Stupid analysis. Toyota is smart enough to know that there is not even -close- to enough of the metals on planet earth to build the batteries needed for an all electric fleet.
Then Toyota also knows that a small gasoline engine combined with a smaller battery hybrid gives you range, safety, cabin heat, etc etc.

Chances are, Toyota, a worldwide company, Japanese and beyond woke thinking guilt trips knows better than true believers of EV.


8 posted on 11/11/2022 8:17:56 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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I’m not about to buy a $80,000 car where the $20,000 battery will go out in a few years. That is, if the car doesn’t spontaneously burst into flames first. If rich people want them as expensive toys, fine. Maybe in 25 years most of the bugs will be worked out and they will be affordable.


11 posted on 11/11/2022 8:18:57 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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Most of Toyotas popular models are also available as hybrids.


15 posted on 11/11/2022 8:21:12 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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At least Toyota isn't caving to the New World Order FORCED EV's/Global Warming farce........that's unfortunately been taught to the indoctrinated YEWTS. You who think humans will out-B.S. mother nature are a long way from common sense.

Reap what you sew, peons.

20 posted on 11/11/2022 8:28:36 PM PST by traditional2 (lets go B*and*n)
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You may take your EV’s and stick them where the sun don’t shine. Big legit V-8’s for me, all day long.


25 posted on 11/11/2022 8:31:39 PM PST by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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What would the EV share of the new car market be without CAFE standards and financial incentives to buy EVs?

If government tyranny successfully forces the issue, Toyota is doing fine already on Hydrogen cars in California and Japan, and can use (we hope) a better battery technology than is presently available is forced to make battery EVs in large numbers.

Apple was nowhere first to the party with MP3 players, but when their better product came out, it dominated despite the high cost.

If reality kicks in on batteries and power generation, Toyota is already there, though already hybrid-centric due to CAFE. They do hybrids well, though I do not care for the underlying philosophy of them.

I am already planning to keep my wife’s 2018 Avalon going for as long as there is gasoline and a me.


28 posted on 11/11/2022 8:36:22 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (What was 35% of the Rep. Party is now 85%. And it’s too late to turn back—Mac Stipanovich )
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Toyota is not wrong about EVs. It is going the hybrid route, which looks better to me. If your hybrid can only do 40-50 miles on the fully charged battery... This means the battery is smaller, not as heavy. Easier to fully charge at night while plugged into a 220 volt line.

This way, if you mostly drive around town daily, you can go fully electric and save by not buying gasoline. Then in effect you are owning and driving an EV. At the same time, you can take a 1000 mile quickie family vacation and go (nearly) all gasoline powered.


41 posted on 11/11/2022 9:14:44 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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Is that another way of saying Teslas are way overpriced?
44 posted on 11/11/2022 9:20:51 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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The Day will come when EV’s are good for nothing but lawn ornaments. The way things are going I don’t expect the lights to be on forever.


45 posted on 11/11/2022 9:21:44 PM PST by Revel
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Toyota is a industry leader with their hybrids starting with the Prius. Hybrids are more complex but I prefer to have an onboard generator to keep my vehicle going rather than be stuck 75%+ of my time waiting for my car to charge. A pure electric is fine if all you do is go back and forth on a commute. However if you want to go on a roar trip on occasion, live in the frigid north or don’t have ready access to a charging port (like lots of city apartment dwellers) then pure electric vehicles come up short.

Teslas are trendy right now and have established themselves as the leader in electric cars, but they don’t have the build quality or low lifetime costs of a Toyota. A similarly priced Lexus 10 years later and with 200kmiles is going to be ready to keep on going without any major outlays for repair. You won’t find a Tesla still going after that time without a lot more money spent on batteries for it.


47 posted on 11/11/2022 9:39:01 PM PST by Flying Circus
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It has more to do with rich dumb libtards overpaying for battery cars than Tesla kicking Toyota. Toyota builds cars that Tesla doesn’t even offer


48 posted on 11/11/2022 9:52:57 PM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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I doubt it because I’d buy a hybrid Toyota any day before I’d even consider a Tesla.


50 posted on 11/11/2022 10:06:27 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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Plus I can tuck my 2 hot rods and my hayabusa into the garage safe and sound every night. If you do that with a Tesla it might KILL you


52 posted on 11/11/2022 10:45:59 PM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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Just park your overpriced battery car outside in the hail and the crime like the car maker warned you to do.


54 posted on 11/11/2022 10:56:38 PM PST by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2022/06/is-it-immoral-to-drive-an-electric-vehicle.php


55 posted on 11/11/2022 11:07:22 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is ████ █ ██████ ███████ ███ ██████ ██ ████████.)
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Toyota knows that EV’s aren’t ready for prime time. Until a massive breakthrough in battery technology happens they’re just toys. A bunch of greenie lunatics wishing it was so doesn’t make it true.


56 posted on 11/11/2022 11:11:22 PM PST by GaryCrow
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