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Russian marines say 'incompetent' generals are treating them as 'cannon fodder' as 300 'are killed or wounded in four-day massacre' - as footage also shows latest mutiny by Putin's soldiers
Daily Mail ^ | 11/7/2022 | Will Stewart

Posted on 11/07/2022 8:51:25 AM PST by marcusmaximus

Footage showed thousands of Russian conscripts shouting at Major-General Kirill Kulakov at a training base in Kazan, a city in Russia, with some yelling 'let's go home'.

Russian marines have said their 'incompetent' generals are treating them as 'cannon fodder' after their unit suffered devastating losses, with 300 men reportedly killed or wounded in four days of heavy fighting in eastern Ukraine.

Marines from Russia's 155th Naval Infantry Brigade wrote a scathing letter to their regional governor, claiming they had lost 300 servicemen in a four-day massacre in Pavlivka thanks to the catastrophic planning of Generals Rustam Muradov and Zurab Akhmedov.

The soldiers claimed Russian commanders were 'hiding' the mayhem in the Donetsk region and 'playing down the number of losses for fear of being held responsible'.

The marines demanded in their letter that Vladimir Putin is personally told of the alleged massacre and that he will set up an independent military commission.

The letter comes as footage appeared to show thousands of mobilised Russian soldiers staging an extraordinary mutiny against their general for sending them to the front line with a lack of supplies and equipment.

Major-General Kirill Kulakov, 53, faced chants of 'get out of here', 'shame on you', and 'down with Putin's regime' as thousands of mobilised men joined a protest at their training base in the city of Kazan, southwest Russia, on the night before they were due to be sent to the front line.

Soldiers who led the mutiny told superiors they could not fight because they had endured weeks of water shortages and scarce rations - and now they were going to be sent into battle with 'rusty machine guns from the 1970s'.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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Kazan conscript mutiny video at the link.
1 posted on 11/07/2022 8:51:25 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

“Winning”


2 posted on 11/07/2022 8:53:28 AM PST by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: marcusmaximus

Already called bunk.
Do your research, peddler.


3 posted on 11/07/2022 8:58:25 AM PST by cranked
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To: marcusmaximus
For our resident pro-Kremlin crowd's viewing amusement...

Russian General Faces Off Against Mutinous Troops in Ukraine

5 posted on 11/07/2022 8:59:40 AM PST by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: marcusmaximus

I know who the real cannon-fodder is though....

‘“They are hiding from us”: a Ukrainian prisoner of war announced the heavy losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Kharkiv direction’
https://russian.rt.com/ussr/article/1069954-ukraina-plennyi-poteri-harkovskoe-napravlenie
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“The Armed Forces of Ukraine suffered very heavy losses during the advance in the Kharkiv direction, said Alexander Barlyan, a soldier of the 25th separate assault brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, who is in captivity in the LPR. He also noted that foreign mercenaries often use Ukrainian soldiers as human shields.”


6 posted on 11/07/2022 9:00:58 AM PST by cranked
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To: marcusmaximus

“The average lifespan of a Ukrainian mobilized recruit now is approximately 10 days — from the time he is grabbed off the street to the time he falls on the battlefield.
Foreign mercenaries—which by and large have become regular Polish and Romanian (and other NATO countries’) troops masquerading as “volunteers” — loath the idea of being used as cannon fodder and behave as regular colonial expeditionary forces.”
https://t.me/Slavyangrad/17146


7 posted on 11/07/2022 9:01:19 AM PST by cranked
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To: marcusmaximus

100,000K Ukrainian mobilization going not for more additional manpower BUT to REPLENISH those forces lost........


8 posted on 11/07/2022 9:03:14 AM PST by cranked
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To: marcusmaximus
Why, thank you marcusmaximus!

Whoever would have guessed that the Ruskies are being slaughtered like a Texas cattle butchering episode?

After all, they've survived.......

-Losing a general every day
-Putin's cancer
-Running out of missiles
-Economical collapse
-Numerous other disasters you have posted

Now, if they keep losing like this, they will need to give back the 20% of the Uke territory they've won in the last eight months.

Now we know what losing looks like.

9 posted on 11/07/2022 9:04:15 AM PST by icclearly
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To: cranked

Analysis of the unit strength and the battle location indicate the fog of war drove up the reporting….the marine unit did take a hit but total casualties more like 30 KIA and another 70 wounded. The settlement is not even large enough to hold 300 fighters much less result in 300 dead fighters

Claims of poor RU command battle decisionmaking may be valid…usually these reports are sorted and acted on after the fact not in the heat of continuing battle


10 posted on 11/07/2022 9:05:56 AM PST by silverleaf (“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell )
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To: silverleaf

This whole article, as with the reporting’s of such which occurred yesterday some time, were based upon the assertions of BLOGGERS...let that sink in, BLOGGERS.

‘The Ministry of Defense denied the statement of bloggers about the losses of marines in the DPR’
https://ria.ru/20221107/poteri-1829659143.html

“”Due to the competent actions of the commanders of the units, the losses of the marines over this period do not exceed one percent of the combat personnel and seven percent of the wounded, a significant part of whom have already returned to duty,” the ministry said.

They also added that the enemy’s losses along the line of contact of the brigade averaged seven to one, and in some areas - nine to one in people and equipment.”


11 posted on 11/07/2022 9:10:54 AM PST by cranked
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To: silverleaf

This was the Bloggers source for the original reporting.
https://t.me/vicktop55/8390


12 posted on 11/07/2022 9:16:09 AM PST by cranked
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To: silverleaf

“Letter from the Marines of Russia, who die in vain near Pavlovka, to the Governor of Primorye, Oleg Kozhemyako. no comments

“Dear Oleg Nikolaevich. The Marines of the 155th Marine Brigade are addressing you.
Once again, we were thrown into an incomprehensible offensive by General M. and his corefan countryman A. in order for M. to earn bonuses in front of the Chief of the General Staff, and A. comrade M. promised the Hero of Russia.

As a result, we and the marines of Kamchatka are advancing on Pavlovka. As a result of the “carefully” planned offensive by the “great generals”, we lost about ... people in 4 days killed, wounded and missing. We lost ... percent of military equipment. This is just our team.

The command of the district, together with A., hide this and take the official figures of losses for fear of responsibility.

How they were going to capture the settlement by slipping through the forest plantations, in which the enemy remained now destroying ours on the ways of evacuating the wounded and transporting ammunition. In addition, Pavlovka is below Ugledar, from which they hit us.

Oleg Nikolaevich, Primorye people! How long will such mediocrity as M. and A. plan military operations for the sake of their reports and receive awards at the cost of the lives of so many people.

They don’t care about anything just to show themselves. They call people meat.

We ask you to turn to the Supreme Commander so that they send a commission not from the Ministry of Defense, where M. protects G., but an independent one.

Let them be asked the purpose of such actions, their provision, and the results without embellishment.
How much can we endure!”

Source: https://t.me/vicktop55/8390


13 posted on 11/07/2022 9:19:18 AM PST by cranked
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To: cranked


YOU


14 posted on 11/07/2022 9:21:20 AM PST by canuck_conservative
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15 posted on 11/07/2022 9:22:26 AM PST by cranked
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To: marcusmaximus

These two countries are lousy at war and should stop.


16 posted on 11/07/2022 9:22:54 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: marcusmaximus

The Daily Mail!!!!!!!


17 posted on 11/07/2022 9:29:48 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: silverleaf

“Freedom ultimately means the right of other people to do things that you disagree with”. T. Sowell

Thank you.


18 posted on 11/07/2022 9:35:37 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: marcusmaximus

War is just a way for leaders of a country to murder their own people and get away with it.


19 posted on 11/07/2022 9:39:19 AM PST by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: MeganC
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/11/ukraine-us-deceives-allies-to-keep-them-in-line.html#more

There are also rumors from Ukraine that Sullivan has pressed Zelensky to launch a Kherson campaign as soon as possible. Zelensky is said to have agreed to do so.

But the Ukrainian army does not want to do that - at least not now. The Russian troops in the area have been reinforced. The fields are muddy and can not be crossed by heavy vehicles. Russian artillery attacks destroy equipment pre-positioned for the attack before it is ready to come near the front line.

The Ukrainian military has for weeks tried probing attacks in the Kherson region. These had no significant results while the attacking units had high losses. The units deployed around the region have been there since early October or longer. The Military Land deployment map shows only one unit that arrived just five days ago. The 98th Azov battalion, one of the fascist volunteer forces, has been positioned in the back of 128th Mountain Assault Brigade which, in recent weeks, has had some of the most serious losses.

The use of such 'nationalist' forces to prevent the retreat of exhausted front line units has been a regular occurrence in this war.

Ukraine has for weeks had no success on the battle field. Washington wants it to show such a success so that it can tell its allies that the war can be won by the Ukrainian side. The push for an attack on Kherson is again part of the overall campaign to convince Europeans that they should sustain the efforts to arm and support Ukraine.

The campaign is misleading. Ukraine is losing the war badly. But the U.S. wants to fight Russia down to the last Ukrainian - and down to the last Euro.

20 posted on 11/07/2022 9:41:59 AM PST by Kazan
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