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Even Greenpeace finally admits the obvious: Recycling plastic doesn’t work
New York Post ^ | 11/1 | John Tierney

Posted on 11/02/2022 5:27:39 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Even Greenpeace has finally acknowledged the truth: Recycling plastic makes no sense.

This has been obvious for decades to anyone who crunched the numbers, but the fantasy of recycling plastic proved irresistible to generations of environmentalists and politicians. They preached it to children, mandated it for adults and bludgeoned municipalities and virtue-signaling corporations into wasting vast sums — probably hundreds of billions of dollars worldwide — on an enterprise that has been harmful to the environment as well as to humanity.

Now Greenpeace has seen the light or at least a glimmer of rationality. The group has issued a report accompanied by a press release headlined “Plastic Recycling Is A Dead-End Street — Year After Year, Plastic Recycling Declines Even as Plastic Waste Increases.” The group’s overall policy remains delusional — the report proposes a far more harmful alternative to recycling — but it’s nonetheless encouraging to see environmentalists put aside their obsessions long enough to contemplate reality.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fraud; plastic; recycling
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1 posted on 11/02/2022 5:27:39 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Buy everyone a Brita (or similar) water bottle. Can’t stand seeing those nasty bottles everywhere.


2 posted on 11/02/2022 5:35:20 PM PDT by griswold3 (There are no solutions; there are only trade-offs. – Thomas Sowell)
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To: nickcarraway

If there is too much plastic waste, stop making disposable plastic objects. People buy what is available.


3 posted on 11/02/2022 5:35:51 PM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: griswold3; All

What’s wrong with tap water?


4 posted on 11/02/2022 5:36:52 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: Cobra64

Tastes bad. Smells bad. And has carcinogens in it.


5 posted on 11/02/2022 5:41:04 PM PDT by entropy12
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To: Dutch Boy
If there is too much plastic waste, stop making disposable plastic objects.

Yeah, screw food safety - that's the ticket.

I contribute my #2 plastics at a bin near my supermarket. What kills me is that the bins are often overflowing with plastics which are not recyclable. Polyethylene is almost infinitely recyclable, but the economics go to hell if it has to be sorted out from the waste.

So it goes.

6 posted on 11/02/2022 5:52:29 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan (CNN)
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To: entropy12

Were you at Camp Lejeune? /s


7 posted on 11/02/2022 5:56:13 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Dutch Boy

Well, from the perspective of a packaging engineer (look at my username), it is more viable to heat the trash until it becomes a gas. With this you can create synthesis gas.

With synthesis gas you can make all sorts of plastics, chemicals, etc.

In the old days the British steel industry would heat up coal for coking. During the process the coal would outgas. Then the gas would be sold off as “town gas” to power lights (think the old Charles Dickens days). Same principle.

Metals and glass would remain and could be separated out because they have a higher melting point than coking temperatures (600 degrees Celsius or so).

I didn’t think of this myself, it was part of one of my packaging classes and is an active area of research. That’s about all I know of it because my area is healthcare packaging, not recycling.


8 posted on 11/02/2022 5:56:33 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: entropy12

Mine is well water at 720’ deep.


9 posted on 11/02/2022 5:56:55 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Sorting the plastics by the users wastes their time without compensation.

Why should the average person donate their time so that recyclers can make a profit?


10 posted on 11/02/2022 5:58:42 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: nickcarraway

I tried in a challenge from my daughter to have a “no plastic month”. It was almost impossible. I did learn quite a bit though. I’ve compromised with repurposing as much as I can. I use glass canning jars for everything now. Just try to buy mayonnaise, ketchup, pancake syrup, milk, coffee beans, etc... without plastic or plastic lined packaging.? I found if you make everything from scratch yourself it’s almost doable.


11 posted on 11/02/2022 6:04:49 PM PDT by blackdog (The head, hands, and heart, serve even further than the purse. )
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To: nickcarraway

Well DUH!
Only took how many decades for this to come around again?
There is an answer that works, but it does not make much of a profit despite being so effective in reducing landfill mass.
It turns plastic and other trash into a light oil, and we all know that anything which produces oil is evil. /s
The secondary products are nearly elementary pure minerals.

It is proven tech which may or may not emit a “Burning hair” odor.
It is called Thermal Depolymerization.
If the Eco-Nuts really wanted to clean up the planet they would be pushing to subsidize this instead of landfills.
But, OIL! = EWWWWW!


12 posted on 11/02/2022 6:22:35 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Free thinking is now a radical concept, I will not be assimilated by PC or EV groupthink!)
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“Polyethylene is almost infinitely recyclable, but the economics go to hell if it has to be sorted out from the waste.”

Perhaps some of the able bodied people on the dole could be put to work processing plastic in return for their Section 8 housing, SNAP, and other benefits.


13 posted on 11/02/2022 6:34:32 PM PDT by Soul of the South (The past is gone and cannot be changed. Tomorrow can be a better day if we work o)
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To: Cobra64

If it is water supplied by a city it is likely full of stuff not fit for human consumption-starting with fluoride and enough chlorine to smell like a pool. I live in a rural area and share a small water system with 15 other people-it is actually a deep communal well and the water is sweet and clean-I still put my drinking water through a purifier, but that is just a habit of mine...


14 posted on 11/02/2022 6:51:44 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: kosciusko51

Now that was funny!! Lololol 😂


15 posted on 11/02/2022 6:57:07 PM PDT by Reddy (BO stinks)
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To: kosciusko51

LOL!


16 posted on 11/02/2022 7:17:30 PM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: kosciusko51

Nope, camp Biden !!


17 posted on 11/02/2022 7:25:56 PM PDT by entropy12
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To: Cobra64

That deep well water would be fine. My parents farm had a deep well and that water was actually good tasting.


18 posted on 11/02/2022 7:27:51 PM PDT by entropy12
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To: nickcarraway
The only way to 'recycle' plastics is to burn it as fuel.Recycling paper makes some sense, as does glass, for certain applications. Aluminum is almost always profitable to recycle because it takes so much energy to get aluminum from ore.

Some day, centuries from now we'll be mining old garbage dumps, unless we've gotten off this rock, and are mining asteroids.

19 posted on 11/02/2022 8:56:17 PM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: entropy12

At the small farm my Dad helped develop & managed for a while, there was not usable well water (without heavy treatment) at any reasonable depth. He and the owner gave up and depended on large (10 gal?) containers for drinking water, washing dishes, etc. They constructed a pond for light irrigation, and separately collected & stored rain water for water to the toilet & shower.

OTOH, my family has a shallow well and our water is quite good except after very heavy rains. So, we store some too.


20 posted on 11/02/2022 10:01:07 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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