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Stop worrying and love the bomb: Proxy war with Russia is sliding toward apocalypse
Salon ^ | 27-Oct-22 | Chris Hedges

Posted on 10/27/2022 8:05:13 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi

Joe Biden, who doesn't always seem to be quite sure where he is or what he is supposed to be saying, is being propped up in the I-am-a-bigger-man-than-you contest with Vladimir Putin by a coterie of rabid warmongers who have orchestrated over 20 years of military fiascos. They are salivating at the prospect of taking on Russia, and then, if there is any habitation left on the globe, China. Trapped in the polarizing mindset of the Cold War — where any effort to de-escalate conflicts through diplomacy is considered appeasement, a perfidious Munich moment — they smugly push the human species closer and closer toward obliteration. Unfortunately for us, one of these true believers is Secretary of State Antony Blinken.

Ukraine, media censorship and the ruthless politics of permanent war

"Putin is saying he is not bluffing. Well, he cannot afford bluffing, and it has to be clear that the people supporting Ukraine and the European Union and the Member States, and the United States and NATO are not bluffing neither," EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell warned. "Any nuclear attack against Ukraine will create an answer, not a nuclear answer but such a powerful answer from the military side that the Russian Army will be annihilated."

Annihilated. Are these people insane?

You know we are in trouble when Donald Trump is the voice of reason.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: nuclear; putinlovertrollsonfr; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; ukraine; war; zotallthewartrolls; zottherussiantrolls
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Some sanity coming from the left now......
1 posted on 10/27/2022 8:05:13 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: Erik Latranyi

Media didn’t tell you this: At the UN, 66 nations called for an end to Ukraine war.

Sixty-six UN members, most from the global south, have called for diplomacy to end the war in Ukraine, as required by the UN Charter. But few of the big power players are listening.


2 posted on 10/27/2022 8:08:45 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: Erik Latranyi
You know we are in trouble when Donald Trump is the voice of reason.

Idiot.

3 posted on 10/27/2022 8:09:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. )
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To: Erik Latranyi

Uh Oh. The deep-state / Left is losing Salon

What’s next, The Atlantic?


4 posted on 10/27/2022 8:10:05 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Some of the cultists are waking up and saying “hey, aren’t WE supposed to be the anti-war party”?


5 posted on 10/27/2022 8:10:56 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: Erik Latranyi

One day these dummies will realize their rabid, irrational dislike of Trump is hurting all of us.


6 posted on 10/27/2022 8:14:38 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Erik Latranyi

Everybody wants peace. The question is what are the terms. And right now, there aren’t any terms that are acceptable to both sides. That’s just reality.


7 posted on 10/27/2022 8:15:01 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Erik Latranyi

8 posted on 10/27/2022 8:15:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Si vis pacem, para bellum....................


9 posted on 10/27/2022 8:16:23 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
Everybody wants peace. The question is what are the terms. And right now, there aren’t any terms that are acceptable to both sides. That’s just reality.

No, one side refuses to negotiate at all.....and that is Ukraine.

10 posted on 10/27/2022 8:16:43 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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"No, one side refuses to negotiate at all.....and that is Ukraine US Deep State and WEF."

Probably more accurate.

11 posted on 10/27/2022 8:23:41 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: Erik Latranyi

If it would not be for the US most Ukrainians still would have a roof over their heads and sleep in their own beds. Probably the eastern portion of the Ukraine which has a large portion of ethnic Russians and was constantly assaulted and antagonized by radical groups would have been annexed by Russia and things eventually would have settled down. The same goes for Europe if they had not jumped on the US bandwagon. The US purposely damaged the gas supply lines making sure that Europe in general and Germany in particular remains dependent on the US like a colony, just in case they may come to their senses and change their mind.

Those days when Russia had any ideas of expansion are long gone and over with and things of the past as Russia has more than enough and then some on its plate to take care of. All they want is a quiet neighborhood without NATO or CIA manipulation and intervention. Just like the US likes to keep their backyard free of any intruders, as expressed in the Monroe Doctrine. But the warmongers within the US government along with their associates and friends keep egging them on, knowing that a peaceful coexistence is bad for the production of war materials, especially the military industrial complex as well as the globalists, cranking out wartime supplies like there is no tomorrow and if they keep it up there may not be one. So, they keep stirring the pot until it will boil over and it isn’t too far from doing just


12 posted on 10/27/2022 8:25:16 AM PDT by Saintgermain
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No, one side refuses to negotiate at all.....and that is Ukraine.

That!


13 posted on 10/27/2022 8:25:40 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Today’s lefty warmongers were yesterday’s hippy flower power Vietnam War protesters.


14 posted on 10/27/2022 8:26:15 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: LittleBillyInfidel

True.


15 posted on 10/27/2022 8:27:33 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Erik Latranyi
No, one side refuses to negotiate at all.....and that is Ukraine.

Russia has insisted at the outset on keeping that Ukrainian territory. If that's Russia's position, there are no negotiations to be had because you know before you start that settlement is impossible.

16 posted on 10/27/2022 8:31:08 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Erik Latranyi
Sixty-six UN members, most from the global south....

Riggght....Third World former Soviet client states and general trouble makers.

17 posted on 10/27/2022 8:34:55 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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The idiotic saber rattling against Russia didn’t turn out to be the hot button issue that drove voters to the polls that Dems (and NeoCons) hoped for. The big Kherson push is probably not going to materialize before the mid terms so Biden won’t be able to use that as some kind of victory.
I suspect this will be ratcheted down after Election Day


18 posted on 10/27/2022 8:36:18 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: Erik Latranyi

No, one side refuses to negotiate at all.....and that is Ukraine.


The “one side” refusing to go home and negotiate is, drum roll please, RUSSIA!

Russia and its fan club don’t want negotiations. They want Ukraine to surrender it’s sovereignty at gun point to a foreign nation. Why on earth would agree country do that?


19 posted on 10/27/2022 8:40:21 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Saintgermain

Pretty accurate assessment.


20 posted on 10/27/2022 8:41:41 AM PDT by L,TOWM (An upraised middle finger is my virtue signal.)
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