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Griner faces difficult conditions at Russian penal colony, former prisoners and advocates say
NBC News / Comcast ^ | October 26, 2022 | By Phil McCausland and Curtis Bunn

Posted on 10/27/2022 8:00:47 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: Jeff Chandler

What is a woman?


Sorry, I’m not a biologist.


41 posted on 10/27/2022 8:29:46 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: es345st

Well, her race & social subcategories are not popular in Russia. A less the enthusiastic reaction to her is not unexpected.


42 posted on 10/27/2022 8:32:34 AM PDT by Reily
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To: All

Julian Assange. Trade.


43 posted on 10/27/2022 8:34:14 AM PDT by Owen
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To: Reily
I didn’t think non-Mexican citizens could own property in Mexico?

They had grandchildren born in Mexico, so that could eventually be dealt with, but they had a 99 year lease with an option for 99 more.

44 posted on 10/27/2022 8:34:20 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: shotgun

>>She should have watched the movie “Midnight Express”

Or “Gulag”, to avoid ending up as a “sandwich”


45 posted on 10/27/2022 8:34:55 AM PDT by vikingd00d (chown -R us ~you/base)
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To: Vermont Lt
I would check out the rules. I even do that when traveling state to state.

Good plan.

46 posted on 10/27/2022 8:35:31 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

P*$$y pass revoked. Melanated armor doesn’t work in Russia.


47 posted on 10/27/2022 8:36:09 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Ahh!


48 posted on 10/27/2022 8:36:17 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily
My gosh, we had some fun in Mexico.

Ensenada was a sleepy little fishing village. The Mexican people were generally quite wonderful, the waters of Todos Santos Bay were teeming with fish to catch by rod and reel or by spearfishing, fresh clams were there for the digging and abalone for the plucking, surfing at San Miguel was world class, the movie theater was six pesos (50 cents) -- as was a beer at Hussongs. We rode horses on the beach and motorcycles in the desert.

It was a great place at that time.

49 posted on 10/27/2022 8:44:58 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Feel good story of the day...Thanks!


50 posted on 10/27/2022 8:46:28 AM PDT by AFret. (.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Could be worse, they could be playing The Star Spangled Banner non-stop, now that would be real punishment for Griner.


51 posted on 10/27/2022 8:47:45 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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It is very difficult to impossible for me to find much sympathy for a criminal that has denigrated my country…


52 posted on 10/27/2022 8:52:32 AM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: SamAdams76

There are many cases in the media of non celebrities receiving outrageous sentences or dying mysteriously when visiting other countries. Celebrities of course receive more attention for anything they do.

I do agree that one should follow the law when visiting a country but this is clearly an unfair political sentence even considering the harshest possible Russian sentences on cannabis.

If a Russian is caught with such a small amount of personal use cannabis the first time, the sentence is 15 days maximum in a jail if the judge really hates you. Normally only a fine. The MAXIMUM sentence for possession of the highest amount is 3 years.

She had a partially smoked e-cigarette which cannot be trafficked in any way and clearly for personal use. The MAXIMUM sentence for trafficking cannabis is 10 years and they recommended an absurd 9.5.

The USA gives much higher maximum sentences for trafficking but you have to understand 10 years in a gulag is near certain death or disability. That is like a 80 year sentence in the USA - very few get to live afterward.

A near maximum sentence of 9 years in a gulag for a partial ecig is clearly a political action. In such cases, the embassy of the USA nearly always becomes involved to protect their citizens abroad even if not mentioned in the media.


53 posted on 10/27/2022 8:55:51 AM PDT by varyouga ( )
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To: es345st

I suspect that you are correct on both counts...


54 posted on 10/27/2022 8:58:59 AM PDT by thoolou ("Hindsight is 2020" will take on a new meaning from on...)
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To: SamAdams76

>>why is it only news when a celebrity is involved?<<
Celebrity? Hmmm


55 posted on 10/27/2022 8:59:04 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: varyouga

I’ll care about liberal celebrities who break the law in foreign countries when some democrat gives a damn about Ashli Babbitt being assassinated at point blank range by a capitol cop.


56 posted on 10/27/2022 9:05:54 AM PDT by GOPJ (Joe's infrastructure bill - 20 Million$ heated sidewalk in Berlin New Hampshire only project started)
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To: varyouga
There is no doubt whatsoever that the sentence meted out here is political. Griner picked the absolute worst possible time to break a law in Russia. With the United States not only supporting but giving aid to Ukraine, Russia is going to use Griner as both propaganda and a bargaining chip.

As you state, the USA is likely working behind the scenes to get her out but the price is going to be high, due to the situation. If I was Putin, I would publicly state that Griner would get released as soon as the J6 political prisoners are released in the USA. Why would Putin want to do that? It would put the current Administration, which Putin hates, in a real pickle, because it would draw much needed attention to the fact that we are doing to our own citizens (political persecution) what we criticize other nations for doing to theirs.

If I were Griner, I would be rooting for Trump to get re-elected to office. President Trump would get her out and you can take that to the bank.

57 posted on 10/27/2022 9:07:57 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (4,360,232 active user on Truth Social)
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To: Jeff Chandler

In Russia they have a definite answer to that question.


58 posted on 10/27/2022 9:10:07 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Tough crap. Let the anti American stay there.


59 posted on 10/27/2022 9:12:10 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: varyouga

According to this source she carried “vape cartridges containing cannabis oil”

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/russian-judge-rules-brittney-griner-illegally-carried-drugs

So—we are not talking just a “a partially smoked e-cigarette”.

Your argument for the defense fails—and there is no way a Russian judge would fall for it.


60 posted on 10/27/2022 9:14:54 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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