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Boeing reveals its losses on contract for new Air Force One hit $1.9BILLION with deal Trump negotiated
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Posted on 10/26/2022 5:11:53 PM PDT by algore

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To: algore

A new Airbus airliner typically sells for somewhat over $100 million.


21 posted on 10/26/2022 5:30:00 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: algore

Defense contractors like Boeing are accustomed to soft bidding that includes “cost overruns” to be made up by the government. Trump does business like we do...stick to the bid.


22 posted on 10/26/2022 5:31:09 PM PDT by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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To: curious7

Federal acquisitions are always over budget, behind schedule, and failing to meet requirements. There is an expectation that the company can simply get more money, money time, and waivers on some requirements just by filing a request. It’s a sweet deal. Until you make a deal with Trump and he sets firm goals.


23 posted on 10/26/2022 5:31:37 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. )
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To: cableguymn
it’s normal for government. bid low and get what you want with cost overruns.

There are other ways that government contracts balloon out of control as well. I worked for Martin Marietta in the early-80s. One of our contracts was the MX (Peacekeeper) missile. It was a crucial weapons system and played a big role in the eventual demise of the Soviet Union, but it was a “cost-plus” contract, meaning that it had no fixed upper limit and the company could charge whatever it needed to against it based upon their cost plus a percentage on top of that. Well, what do you think happened? Anytime some other contract with a fixed cost started to run up against its cost ceiling, we were told to just charge those costs against the MX contract.

It eventually exploded into a huge scandal, and you can be sure that similar practices were (and may still be) going on throughout the defense industry.

24 posted on 10/26/2022 5:32:05 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Paladin2

Probably COVID.


25 posted on 10/26/2022 5:33:14 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: algore

Why wouldn’t Boeing insist on a contract that would be adjusted for inflation? A stupid bet on Boeings part.


26 posted on 10/26/2022 5:33:34 PM PDT by TBall
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To: Brian Griffin

NOT with the security requirements of AF One


27 posted on 10/26/2022 5:34:21 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: algore

Lockheed and Boeing are used to a system where they quote a price and then keep jacking it up at the taxpayers’ expense. I’ve read that Boeing also took heavy losses on the KC-46.


28 posted on 10/26/2022 5:35:51 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Rowdyone

I worked for LMT, same deal as Boeing. The sought after contracts are the ost plus type, but both companies have contracts people who understand what a fixed price contract is. Lockheed took on plenty of them and I would like to say most were brought in on time and under budget. But the contracts means everything, and Boeing knew it. I do not feel sorry for them.


29 posted on 10/26/2022 5:37:17 PM PDT by KC_for_Freedom (retired aerospace engineer and CSP who also taught)
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To: algore

No worries Biden will give them the money cause it’s only money.


30 posted on 10/26/2022 5:37:35 PM PDT by VastRWCon (Fake News")
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To: algore

Good, he made a good deal for them.

I am sure he’s looking forward to flying in them.


31 posted on 10/26/2022 5:41:30 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: algore

Poor Boeing.


32 posted on 10/26/2022 5:46:09 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ( We need to “build back better” on the bones and ashes of those forcing us to “Build Back Better.")
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To: algore

The cost isn’t going to stop there. Delay, price increase, delay, price increase,... Just like a democrat sponsored project.


33 posted on 10/26/2022 5:46:43 PM PDT by robel
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To: algore

Aw, gee Boeing finds out that not everyone is as stupid as NASA!


34 posted on 10/26/2022 5:48:42 PM PDT by Colo9250
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“ I must say that $1.95 billion for an airplane is a bit much.”

And counting.


35 posted on 10/26/2022 5:48:43 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (At this point I would rather have the illegals here than the liberals.)
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To: algore

It’s absurd these planes cost this much to begin with, they are mad at how Trump held them to a fixed contract when they are used to cost overruns.


36 posted on 10/26/2022 5:49:34 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: algore

Then...why the Hell did they agree to the fixed price contract?
Sounds like fraud on a billion dollar scale, IMO...


37 posted on 10/26/2022 5:50:26 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. The Dhimmicraps are ALL Traitors. All of them.)
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To: algore

Headline is a bit misleading for the uniformed. It makes it sound like Trump caused the government to loose money, not the contractor who couldn’t perform.


38 posted on 10/26/2022 5:50:41 PM PDT by 3RIVRS
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To: glorgau

LOL, man, that was good. :)


39 posted on 10/26/2022 5:54:29 PM PDT by PA-RIVER ( )
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To: curious7
Boeing 1 year chart:


40 posted on 10/26/2022 6:00:10 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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