Why I Think This Is An American Plan

YouTube ^ | 10/24/2022 | Gonzalo Lira

[Kazan]

A more nuanced discussion of the false flag operation that the Americans are planning in Ukraine involving a dirty bomb.

[Kazan]

No, this war wouldn't be happening if WE hadn't fomented a revolution in Ukraine that overthrow a President that had been democratically elected in Ukraine.

Nor would it have happened if Ukraine had agreed to remain neutral, not join NATO and implement the Minsk Agreement, which is signed off on.

Nor would we (the US) tolerate Mexico being armed by the Russians or Chinese or running biolabs with deadly pathogens in them.

[Governor Dinwiddie]

What Russia does is none of our business.
What Ukraine does is none of our business.

George Washington himself warned us against involvement. We have nothing to gain. We have so much to lose.

Archduke Ferdinand says flee why you are still able.

[Navy Patriot]

...you are quite correct...

Yep, and I wish I wasn't.

I also wish we had a Government and a Media that we could trust.

[Navy Patriot]

Ukraine would not have been destabilized if The Russians had just let Syria fall to the Obamunists/Globalists, so that the Qatari Gas Pipeline to Europe could be built.

Another forbidden truth in Canuckistan, but real, none the less.

[Widget Jr]

I do not hide I'm siding with Ukraine, and I am not saying this to be a jerk. Gonzala Lira is wannabe intellectual and online phony. Look up who he is. I did.

Here's a example of how fake he is. The only "evidence" Ukraine security detained him is himself. When Kiwi Farms (was / is / will be) online they have a long running thread on Lira. There is more evidence that he faked his arrest to edit his Wikipedia page than he was actually arrested.

Seriously, find some real experts who know what they are saying instead of bottom rung shills.

[Cathi]

Well, if it is any consolation I don’t agree that the U.S. is behind this, nor supports it. This is strictly a Zelensky plan to force NATO to physically join the war. Zelensky is an idiot and he is very dangerous; but the U.S. knows this and has been pushing back on him relentlessly.

I have been following this Ukrainian Telegram Channel (with an inside source inside the OP) for 5 months now. Their information has been accurate the entire time about all the machinations of the Zelensky regime.

The following posts have been posted over the last 6 weeks.

https://t.me/s/rezident_ua/

Resident
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Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President is ready to create a dirty nuclear bomb to contain Russia. A headquarters has already been set up on Bankova with nuclear scientists and the military, who are urgently preparing a group for the development of nuclear weapons.

Resident
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Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President continues to negotiate with the UK on the transfer of nuclear weapons to Ukraine. During the Johnson premiership, agreements were reached that Ukraine would receive several charges to deter Russia if the Kremlin threatened to use nuclear weapons. With the coming to power of Truss, the process of negotiations stalled and we are forced to look for ways to create a dirty nuclear bomb ourselves.

Resident
⚡️⚡️⚡️#Insider
Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President is pushing for long-range missiles, including ATACMS , for the sole purpose of having the tools to deliver the dirty atomic bomb that our nuclear physicists are working on. Bankovaya believes that the best argument against the Kremlin is its own nuclear missiles.

Resident
⚡️⚡️⚡️#InsideOur
source in the OP said that after Zelensky’s statement about a preventive nuclear strike on Russia, Britain curtailed the negotiation process on the transfer of an atomic bomb to us. MI6 oversaw this track, but due to pressure from the State Department, the discussion process itself was stopped, and London refused to be a party to the conflict, even if the transfer would take place informally.

Resident
The United States is trying with all its might to “influence” the Office of the President, which has recently begun to show many independent decisions and carried out a number of controversial operations even for the West, which led to an escalation of hostilities. This also applies to the unprecedented statement about the accelerated entry of Ukraine into NATO, and the high-profile murder of Dugina, and the attack on the Crimean bridge.

The Western media promptly hurried to “dissociate” the influence of Washington and the EU on these incidents, but Bankova had to quickly change her position, which was especially noticeable from the statements about the explosion on the Crimean bridge.

Moreover, Western curators directly warn the Office of the President that if the trend of “arbitrariness” continues, then assistance from partners will “decrease” even more.

Resident
⚡️⚡️⚡️#InsideOur
source in the OP said that the US Embassy in Ukraine demanded that Zelensky stop his rash actions in Russia. Brigitte Brink conveyed to Yermak claims from the State Department regarding the explosions on the Crimean bridge and the murder of Dugina, all the initiative of the Office of the President greatly irritates the White House and takes the conflict with Russia to a new level, which is difficult to predict.

Resident
⚡️⚡️⚡️#Inside
Our source in the OP said that the United States demanded that the Office of the President stop the track with the withdrawal from the Budapest Memorandum. The Biden administration was dissatisfied with the independence of the GUR with the murder of Dugina and the explosion of the Crimean bridge, which is why they demanded that Yermak stop any uncoordinated operations. Information escalation of the situation with a dirty atomic bomb is dangerous for Ukraine and can become a catalyst for a new escalation in which the West does not want to take part.

https://t.me/resident_ua/14556
Telegram
Resident
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Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President continues to work on the return of Ukraine’s nuclear status. Bankovaya believes that Russia’s aggression can be deterred in two ways: join NATO or possess nuclear weapons.
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[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "I also wish we had a Government and a Media that we could trust."

Perhaps in a time of "universal deceit" as the saying goes, it actually helps to maintain a skeptical view of government and media, and a cynical view that those in government or media have "our best interests" at heart.

I find such skepticism and cynicism fine tools, lenses through which to read "through" and find those truly informative tidbits, as the "manufacturing of consent" (a Chomsky topic) shows push polls and wild predictions about the future to be purely aimed at manufacturing that "consent" that you and I might not give.

Question authority -- when I was a naive college student -- was a slogan for the political Left, now wholly abandoned by it. It's not a bad bit of advice after all. And not a tool of the Left, to be sure, when they are in power as they are in this messed-up moment in time.

Stay well and best regards from a not-Navy "olive drab."

[ganeemead]

"Well, if it is any consolation I don’t agree that the U.S. is behind this, nor supports it. This is strictly a Zelensky plan to force NATO to physically join the war. Zelensky is an idiot and he is very dangerous; but the U.S. knows this and has been pushing back on him relentlessly."

That really says theonly way to safety in this picture is to end the Kiev regime, doesn't it?

[Navy Patriot]

Perhaps in a time of "universal deceit" as the saying goes, it actually helps to maintain a skeptical view of government and media...

I can agree with that, because I apply a skeptical view to government and Media all the time, and I demand to hear both sides of a disagreement in all the rest of society.

...and a cynical view that those in government or media have "our best interests" at heart.

Again, I agree, and do apply that since before the Federal Government deployed the Fake News Disinformation assault on the Randy Weaver Family at Ruby Ridge, and upped the level of Disinformation at the Branch Davidian Compound at Waco.

Question authority

Yes, and I do without hatred for Government, and with Love for the Constitution.

Thanks for a real discussion, and thank you for your service.

[Cathi]

“That really says theonly way to safety in this picture is to end the Kiev regime, doesn’t it?”

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Absolutely! There is literally no possibility of any peace in Ukraine if Zelensky is still there. While the United States (now also known as Deep State) is responsible for initiating this war they have been opposed to all of Zelensky initiated rogue and dangerous escalations. He has become uncontrollable.

Whether Zelensky’s end comes as a result of further war conflict or as a result of negotiations whereby he is removed and replaced with a mutually agreed upon replacement this war won’t end with him still the Ukrainian president.

Naturally the Russians do not trust Zelensky to keep any agreements; but, now the United States doesn’t trust him to either.