Posted on 10/22/2022 10:06:05 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
The soldiers, who say they are from Krasnodar in southern Russia, claim that after a month of being transported between different locations, they were dropped off "somewhere in the fields of Ukraine" with no radio, no ammunition and no medicine. They say they do not even know where they are.
The men add that they are living in holes dug out of the ground with their bare hands as temperatures drop to zero at night time. Two people are so sick they need to be hospitalised, the men say.
"There is no information, no command. We sit like on [tenterhooks], because we do not know where are our own [and] where are the enemy. No radio, no cartridges, no s***," one says.
They claim that their families even had to pay for their military uniforms and that they had to dig the holes with their hands because they were not provided with shovels .
"No shovel, nothing with us... We live just in the field... They bring some food, literally two times a day. We burn fires, chop trees, dig," one says.
It is just the latest information to emerge about the treatment of men mobilised by Russia to fight in Ukraine, many of whom have been sent to the frontlines without training.
British intelligence had previously indicated that Russian conscripts were being forced to pay for their own body armour.
Meanwhile in a recent video posted from the Stavropol region in southern Russia, a soldier displayed the kit he had been given, which included a plastic paintballing mask and children's gloves.
Some men mobilised just last month have already been killed and sent back to Russia in coffins.
It comes amid indications that the partial mobilisation of troops is UNDERMINING SUPPORT for President Vladimir Putin in Russia.
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
Indeed
It is part of what makes them the greatest generation
Good morning Propo Queen. I have some news for you. When we switched from OD Green to Woodland Camo, we had to buy the uniforms ourselves. They were not ISSUED. They also were not cheap.
bkmk
Two UATV videos, one from the Security Service of Ukraine...
You can’t exactly complain about others who post using sources like Tass, RT, or the Russian Ministry or Defense, when you so readily rely upon the word of the Ukrainian government.
This nonsense is the equivalent of your parents walking 7 miles to school every day in all kinds of weather, uphill in both directions.
Yep. They are all alone with idea where they are but someone is delivering food twice a day. They have no tools to dig but they have axes to chop wood and break ground. This propaganda can’t even keep their lies straight within the same story.
A little suspicious.
They were not even given shovels yet apparently they were outfitted with axes as it said they chop wood daily? Why don’t they use the axes to help dig?
So they have trucks to carry the food, cooking equipment, and it said 2 men were taken to hospitals so they have the myriad ofnecessary medical equipment etc.
But no shovels.🤔
all kinds of things to dig with in lieu of a shovel...the article is dumb
front lines without training.....maybe they should check how much training our guys got in WWII.
Is that supposed to be the same as these guys having to buy their uniforms at induction?
The solution is simple....... march to the east
How much training did an American soldier see between basic and advanced training, and local training as in Britain, before actually seeing combat?
Please tell us.
You seem to be trying to make a worthless point
First, you have to be a true believer in this propo to not get the point and attempt to deflect. I'm not a believer, you are. It certainly meant much the same to a private barley bringing in $300 a month to have to spend over $100 a set x 4 and it was mandatory. Make of it what you will lefty.
I’m asking the poster who seems to know and was trying to use it to make some point.
Don’t be so hostile.
Just yesterday you guys ran a story where a new recruit called home to complain. So they don't need radios. They've got their cell phones, right?
Maybe they could just order out.
I know you were issued uniforms when inducted, and I believe that for a couple of years you got a uniform allowance.
Why are you so angry?
I interpret the reporting to be on the same subject from different induction locations. That is, the Russian government lacked the resources to fit out the mobilization, but that the mobilization actions were not the same in all induction locations.
I interpret the various versions of the story to mean that Russia is actually seriously lacking in the most basic of resources. There is just no there there.
The presence of Iran indicates the same thought. Russia lacks the means to produce the drones required to continue the assault on Ukraine. It is reported to have traded Iranian satellite launches for drones. It was a barter transaction rather than exchange of worthless national currencies
OK.....sorry
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