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LiveUkraine war latest: Russia 'considering major withdrawal over Dnipro river'
The Telegraph ^ | Octrober 20, 2022 | Chanel Zagon and George Styllis

Posted on 10/20/2022 2:17:57 AM PDT by Widget Jr

Russia is considering withdrawing troops and equipment over the Dnipro river despite all permanent bridges being damaged, said the UK Ministry of Defence.

Following a rare admission by Russia's new General of the difficulties his forces are facing in Kherson, the MoD said Moscow appears to be considering a "major withdrawal" west of the Dnipro river.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: accordingtoplan; goodwillgesture; invasion; kherson; lukashenko; putin; russia; sidebarabuse; ukraine
Ukraine has requested social media channels go dark and not talk about Kherson on and off since August. Russia is equally tight lipped. Not much is coming out of the Kherson area right now.
1 posted on 10/20/2022 2:17:57 AM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: Widget Jr

Perhaps a sign of a new border.

Let’s see if it can be respected


2 posted on 10/20/2022 2:40:02 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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To: Widget Jr

what’s with Putin’s speech announcing military rule in the occupied areas?

sounded like the classic, vague “Do better!” rantings of a frustrated losing coach


3 posted on 10/20/2022 2:46:45 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Erik Latranyi

Telegram Resident ⚡️⚡️⚡️#Insider MI-6 transmitted intelligence to the Office of the President and the General Staff that the Kremlin decided to create a fortress city from Kherson, following the example of Bakhmut. All residents will be evacuated and artillery will be brought in. 2.1Mviews 08:30

Instead of civilians who left, they will saturate the military group, according to our data, this is from 100 to 150 thousand people. Correctly write about the city-fortress, we would add that the city can become one big military base.

Russia is doing this to use as their base of operations to continue to Nikolaev, Odessa and all the way to Transnistria in Moldova.


4 posted on 10/20/2022 2:54:59 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi

wow, lightning bolts

must be important Nazi SS information


5 posted on 10/20/2022 2:59:42 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Cathi

Interesting...

Polish deputy PM cancels Seoul visit after plane denied access to China airspace

Mariusz Blaszczak ended up having a video call with the South Korean defence minister after Beijing refused to allow the Polish delegation’s jet to enter its airspace

Warsaw’s military aid to Ukraine and Seoul’s closer relations with Nato are believed to have influenced China’s decision


6 posted on 10/20/2022 3:21:21 AM PDT by Cathi
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To: Cathi

LOL Sound’s like Hitler’s “fortress cities” scheme. Locking up a lot of Russian troops in Kherson will make the Ukrainians’ job easier. They can simply be starved out.


7 posted on 10/20/2022 3:25:49 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Widget Jr
said the UK Ministry of Defence.

More tabloid level reporting from the British press.

8 posted on 10/20/2022 3:42:40 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Cathi

Sure.


9 posted on 10/20/2022 3:48:21 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: McGruff

The UK Ministry of Defense is more credible than some of the crap that gets posted here.


10 posted on 10/20/2022 3:49:38 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: popdonnelly

Yeah, the same people that gave us the Steele dossier.


11 posted on 10/20/2022 3:55:41 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Widget Jr

Difficult to trust the media but the Telegraph seems to be fair.


12 posted on 10/20/2022 4:17:38 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Widget Jr

General “Armageddon” has quickly become General “Bug Out.”


13 posted on 10/20/2022 4:38:34 AM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Widget Jr

Somehow, though, the Telegraph knows what they are considering, and their source is in no danger whatever from going public on this information.


14 posted on 10/20/2022 4:49:33 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Free country? Good morning, Rip. )
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To: canuck_conservative

Russians are bugging out of Kherson and looting everything Katrina style that isn’t nailed down. The thieving bandits are even “denazifying” the local fire trucks and stealing them.


15 posted on 10/20/2022 5:23:35 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Widget Jr

We may not have many true facts about this conflict. But we do know winter is coming.


16 posted on 10/20/2022 5:43:38 AM PDT by lurk (u)
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a web search says that the dnipro will freeze over on about january 3, and stay frozen until march. (unless anthroprogenic climate change, presumably.)


17 posted on 10/20/2022 6:03:12 AM PDT by SteveH
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To: Cathi

18 posted on 10/20/2022 8:21:16 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: Widget Jr; Cathi; McGruff

Every minute that the Ukrainian army is out from behind its defenses and under the Russian artillery is another minute for Clausewitz to be correct.


19 posted on 10/20/2022 8:47:30 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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