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Republicans Plan to Use Debt Limit Leverage to Reduce Social Security, Medicare: Report
Yahoo ^ | Oct 12 2022 | Michael Rainey

Posted on 10/18/2022 1:56:02 PM PDT by NeverCheney

Republicans in the House are planning to use a potential showdown next year over raising the federal debt limit to make changes in Social Security and Medicare, Bloomberg’s Jack Fitzpatrick reports.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.yahoo.com ...


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To: liberalh8ter
The GOP needs to counter this BS story, immediately.

How?

101 posted on 10/18/2022 3:08:00 PM PDT by Lower Deck
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To: liberalh8ter

“ The GOP needs to counter this BS story, immediately.”

Problem is, the GOP House Study Committee just put out a report suggesting cutting Social Security by raising the eligibility age to 70. Here’s hoping you live that long!


102 posted on 10/18/2022 3:08:02 PM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: srmanuel

Florida Senator Rick Scott Defends Social Security Plans on Fox News

Scott’s “11-Point Plan to Rescue America” included a provision that all legislation would have to be re-passed every five years, leading to questions about Social Security’s future.

The plan has been controversial. Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), the Senate Minority leader, has expressed his public opposition — while Democrats have seized on some of its specific proposals, including a call for everyone in the country, even the very poor, to pay federal income taxes.

Also controversial has been the plan’s approach to Social Security. While the program is only mentioned briefly, Scott’s document says it would “force Congress to issue a report every year telling the public what they plan to do when Social Security and Medicare go bankrupt.” In addition, the plan calls for “no government assistance unless you are disabled or aggressively seeking work.” It also calls for all legislation to sunset after five years, requiring Congress to pass laws again if they are considered to be worth keeping.

“We will not have as part of our agenda a bill that raises taxes on half the American people and sunsets Social Security and Medicare within five years,” McConnell said last week. “That will not be part of the Republican Senate majority agenda.”

“No one that I know of wants to sunset Medicare or Social Security, but what we’re doing is we don’t even talk about it. Medicare goes bankrupt in four years. Social Security goes bankrupt in 12 years,” Scott said, referencing last year’s Social Security Trustees report, which had the main trust fund running out a year earlier than previously projected.

“I think we ought to figure out how we preserve those programs. Every program that we care about, we ought to stop and take the time to preserve those programs.”

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/politics/florida-senator-rick-scott-defends-social-security-plans-fox-news-201523

I understand what point he was trying to make, but I saw him saying all this without any detail in an alection year.


103 posted on 10/18/2022 3:09:58 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Cat food is more expensive than people food now.


104 posted on 10/18/2022 3:11:36 PM PDT by Rusty0604 (" When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." -Ronald Reagan)
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To: NeverCheney

Sixty-five was first designated to be the retirement age in
1935. I believe the Life Expectancy has increased enough
to be able to absorb a few more years.

Remember that this would be the second time the age has
been raised. My ex can’t get full SS until 67 now. I’d
imagine there are people younger than her that are already
at 68, perhaps a little more.

Do I like this? Not necessarily. The point is, if SS is
going to have to be adjusted, it is the least painful way
to do it.

If you have a better suggestion, I like to hear it.


105 posted on 10/18/2022 3:14:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: Rusty0604
Cat food is more expensive than people food now.

Yes! And don't I know it with 6 furry mouths begging.

106 posted on 10/18/2022 3:15:00 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: NeverCheney

You mentioned people getting laid off due to age, to avoid
SS exposure. (inferred, I believe)

If you get laid off, it can lop off your eligibility to
receive a pension from the employer. It will not affect
your SS if you have your quarters in.


107 posted on 10/18/2022 3:15:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: liberalh8ter

Maybe we could counter it by pointing out there are significantly fewer social security recipients since many died in nursing homes during the pandemic, you know, where they were forced by Dem governors.


108 posted on 10/18/2022 3:18:40 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: DoughtyOne

You mentioned people getting laid off due to age, to avoid
SS exposure. (inferred, I believe)

No, my point is that these days it is common for big companies to lay off older workers. And it is uncommon for companies of any size to hire older workers. So you have a lot of people. age 60-plus, who are unemployed even though not due to their own choice or desire. Right now, at least they can start taking Social Security payments at age 62 if they need money

But they won’t have that option If the Social Security age gets raised to age 70 , as some Republicans have proposed. Millions of unemployed seniors will have to wait years - until their 70th birthday - to begin receiving Social Security, and many will struggle financially as a result


109 posted on 10/18/2022 3:26:52 PM PDT by NeverCheney
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To: NeverCheney
Oh dear Lord. Wonder who the committee members were?
110 posted on 10/18/2022 3:28:31 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: DoughtyOne
... If you have a better suggestion, I like to hear it.

See, that's the hard part. Crickets, until it's too late, and we have to inflate it into flowing perpetually.

111 posted on 10/18/2022 3:31:28 PM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: NeverCheney

The Stupid Wing of the Uniparty looking to seize defeat from the jaws of victory—right on time, once again.


112 posted on 10/18/2022 3:32:35 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: NeverCheney

I can’t say that this won’t be a problem for some, because
there will be some people out there who will run into
something like this.

Clear back to the 1970s I was running into people who were
let go like this. It’s been a problem all along.

Today you’d be surprised how many job openings there are
even at fast food places. We’re talking $20 per hour plus
in some places, and some of them are even offering signing
bonuses of up to $500 dollars.

A lot of businesses are shuttering much earlier than
they used to, because they can’t staff their establishments.

This is probably a better time than many periods in the
past, even if someone is laid off.


113 posted on 10/18/2022 3:32:53 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: NeverCheney

Huge load of scaremongering bunk designed to blunt the red wave. The Republicans need to get the killer instinct like Kari Lake and Donald Trump or else they’re going to get rolled again.


114 posted on 10/18/2022 3:38:29 PM PDT by fightin kentuckian
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To: gloryblaze

Social Security is okay for the time being. I’m not sure
exactly when it is supposed to meet some failure deadline,
but it isn’t now.

They are looking forward to avoid a problem on the horizon.

Here’s some info on LifeSpan in 1935

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, a federal
agency that tracks birth and death data, says that a man
born in 1935, on average, lived until he was 60; a woman
typically lived until she was 64.

Today our lifespan is 76.61 for men, and 81.65 for Women.

The age of eligibility will have done up five years, but
the lifespan will have done up 16.61 and 17.65 years.

The important thing is to start a tax deferred savings
program and hopefully get an employer matching funds
benefit.

It also pays to see if you can find a job with a business
that has its own retirement plan.

Having two or three sources of income after retirement is
helpful.


115 posted on 10/18/2022 3:41:49 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: NeverCheney

Nor this shit again!!! The Crats have nothing to run on


116 posted on 10/18/2022 3:44:40 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!you)
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To: 9YearLurker
The Stupid Wing of the Uniparty looking to seize defeat from the jaws of victory—right on time, once again.

Not really. It's a case of Democrats twisting what Republicans have said and a troll posting the Den regurgitation. A little research and I find Senator Ron Johnson said on a radio show this month that Social Security and Medicare shouldn’t be “mandatory” programs and should be subject to yearly renewal decisions in Congress.

The Dems then start screaming Republicans want to cut or end it. Republicans have long said that people should be able to opt out and invest on their own.

117 posted on 10/18/2022 3:48:47 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: NeverCheney

Lie.


118 posted on 10/18/2022 3:50:47 PM PDT by Baldwin77 (Super, Duper, Ultra Maga, subject of the Ultra Maga King Donald)
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To: NeverCheney

Quote: “ Problem is, the GOP House Study Committee just put out a report suggesting cutting Social Security by raising the eligibility age to 70. Here’s hoping you live that long”

I heard that the funeral benefits for all the elderly people your party kills are still there tho.


119 posted on 10/18/2022 3:51:25 PM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: FlipWilson; NeverCheney

This poster keeps pushing Dem and Rino talking points, even posting an old article about Paul Ryan. He needs a Zot!


120 posted on 10/18/2022 3:58:42 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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