AMERICANS BETTER WAKE UP AND REALIZE THE RUSSIANS ARE GENUINELY PISSED OFF

Sonar 21 ^ | 6 October 2022 | by Larry Johnson

[Kazan]

What a difference a decade makes. There was a time when the United States would talk to Russia with at least the pretense of respect. Remember this exchange between then Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and Barack Obama?

That was then. Mr. Medvedev is singing quite a different tune now. He made this public statement yesterday:

It is useless and unnecessary to appeal to the prudence of our enemies in the West, the enemies must be forced to ask for mercy in the lost economic battle and end it with their complete and unconditional surrender

I do not believe that Dimitry Medvedev was drunk or insane when he said this. I believe he is serious and reflects a view that is widely shared among the Russian leadership. The last seven months has been an eye opener for Medvedev and his colleagues in terms of discovering that the Americans and Europe see Russia as a piece of meat to be carved up and consumed. There is no solution based on compromise or negotiation with the west. Medvedev laid it out starkly and concisely–“complete and unconditional surrender.”

I have seen zero media coverage of this. That is alarming. The American people need to understand that Russia ain’t playing and is not going to roll over and submit like a beaten dog just because the United States insists it will continue to funnel arms and money to Ukraine.

Put yourself in the shoes of the Russian leaders and people. Here is what they have seen over the last 8 years since the democratically elected President of Ukraine was ousted by a western backed coup:

*While professing a deep commitment to democracy, America and Europe ignored the voters of Ukraine and helped orchestrate the unlawful removal of President Viktor Fedorovych Yanukovych on the 22 of February 2014.
*In the aftermath of that coup, the newly installed Ukrainian government embarked on a war against Russian speaking Ukrainians. Ukraine wantonly killed civilians and the west remained silent.
*Despite repeated warnings from Russia that it would not tolerate western efforts to bring Ukraine into NATO, the United States and Europe conducted annual military exercises with Ukraine and provided military training and assistance.
Russia’s attempt to negotiate in December 2021 with the United States over the status of Ukraine was rebuffed.
*In response to Russia’s Special Military Operation, the United States and Europe imposed “draconian” sanctions and embarked on a full scale attempt to punish not just the political leaders of Russia, but all Russians, including denouncing Russia’s rich cultural heritage.
*The United States and Europe continue to supply Ukraine with weapons and ammunition that is being used to kill the newly incorporated citizens of Russia that reside in the Donbas, Kherson and Zaporhyzhia.
*Russia’s effort to negotiate a peace with Ukraine was shutdown by the U.K.’s Prime Minister, Boris Johnson. The United Kingdom, Poland and Ukraine announced a trilateral pact to promote Ukraine’s defense and independence in February 2022.
*The Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe and leading U.S. officials are calling for “decolonizing Russia”–i.e., breaking up Russia into geographic regions. Russia’s Nordstream gas pipelines were sabotaged.

Now there is something more ominous. Ukraine and Poland are rattling nuclear sabers. Let us start with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, who called for the international community to take “preventive action” to deter the potential use of nuclear weapons by Russia in the ongoing war in Ukraine by attacking Russia:

In an address to the Lowy Institute, a nonpartisan international policy think tank in Australia, Zelensky underscored the importance of “preventive strikes, preventive action” so that Russia can get a better picture of the potential consequences if they move to use nuclear weapons.

https://thehill.com/policy/international/3677256-zelensky-calls-for-preventive-action-to-deter-russian-nuclear-strikes/

Vladimir Putin’s Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov reacted firmly, clearly reflecting President Putin’s position about Zelensky’s foolish remarks:

The United States, the United Kingdom de facto lead the activities of Kiev, and therefore they should be responsible for Zelensky’s statements

https://eprimefeed.com/economy/peskov-called-the-united-states-and-the-united-kingdom-responsible-for-zelenskys-statement/197561/

Poland made mattes worse by claiming this week that it asked the United States to base nuclear weapons in Poland. Polish President Duda told Bloomberg News:

“The problem, first of all, is that we don’t have nuclear weapons,” Duda said in an interview with the Gazeta Polska newspaper published on Wednesday. “There is always a potential opportunity to participate in nuclear sharing.” . . .

“We have spoken to American leaders about whether the US is considering such a possibility” of Poland sharing the weapons, Duda told the newspaper. “The topic is open.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-05/poland-is-in-talks-with-us-about-nuclear-weapons-president-says

I was a youngster when the Cuban Missile Crisis brought the world to the brink of a nuclear war between the United States and the Soviet Union. The Soviets reacted to the United States placing nuclear missiles in Turkey and decided to give the United States a taste of its own medicine. The United States was horrified at the prospect of having Soviet missiles 90 miles from our shores and reacted strongly. Fortunately, cooler heads prevailed and a deal was cut that committed the Soviets to removing the missiles from Cuba followed by the United States removing the nukes from Turkey. Why would anyone sane person think that the west could now place nukes almost on the border of Russia and that Russia would not care nor react? This is madness.

Vladmir Putin is not a delusional paranoid. He is taking the west at its word and accepts the reality that the United States and Europe want to destroy Russia. Putin is committed to preventing that and it is now clear that the members of his government and the people of Russia are awakened to this threat. If you were in Putin’s place, what would you do? How would you react?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Nuclear war is a good thing. CNN says so.

[PIF]

AMERICANS BETTER WAKE UP AND REALIZE THE RUSSIAN TYRANTS ARE GENUINELY PISSED OFF BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN HUMILIATED BY THE TINY COUNTRY THEY RUTHLESSLY INVADED

[bigbob]

Because the FR favorite Z-man is calling for attacks on Russia? What could go wrong with helping one side in someone else’s war?

[Monterrosa-24]

Russia was humiliated in February and March and April and May and June and July and August and September and Ukraine is getting stronger as Russia gets weaker and more pathetic.

[pnz1]

So no one is trying to broker any kind of peace deals etc? I also haven’t seen/heard the usual anti war protesters either..

[ifinnegan]

Pu Mao mixes up mad.

They’re mad as in crazy.

Drunk and insane.

Any argument they had went out the window when the attacked and invaded.

[Dr. Franklin]

Russian males are so mad, they are leaving Russia by the hundreds of thousands. Others are fighting for Ukraine against Putin. Putin has made Russians very angry. How long can he remain in power?

[Poison Pill]

The West understands that Russia would not only take ALL of Ukraine if it could, but wants to secure real estate beyond Ukraine which includes parts of Poland and ALL of the Baltics.

[hanamizu]

The Russian government might well be pissed, but the Russian people? Perhaps I’m being misled, but it seems like many Russians who have the means are heading for the exits.

[cranked]

Or so the Western/US/UK/EU/NATO propaganda ridden media and pro-Ukrainian propaganda peddlers incessantly propagate....

“We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.”
— CIA Director William Casey

“The Western media — WaPo, the NYT, the Guardian, the BBC, the CBC, MSNBC, CNN, etc— are lying. Look at their record. Look at the last 20 years. If you believe the Media, you are either a moron or morally deficient.

MSM lies are exposed one after another. Yet, people still believe, even though the real sources in the MSM are CIA and MI6 propaganda routed through Kiev. Check out any article. Where does the information come from? Unidentified “officials”? Kiev? Bellingcrap? Some obscure hack in Latvia? A CIA or MI6 affiliated “think tank”? Moral deficiency may not be the cause of your belief but it is the result. Then again you need something to watch on TV as you fill your mouth when you eat. Watching crap makes eating crap easier.”
https://julianmacfarlane.substack.com/p/the-new-war-in-ukraine

‘WHO CONTROLS THE NEWS CONTROLS THE WORLD’
https://www.corbettreport.com/newscontrol/

[ConservativeMind]

This line is cr-p:

“The last seven months has been an eye opener for Medvedev and his colleagues in terms of discovering that the Americans and Europe see Russia as a piece of meat to be carved up and consumed.”

There have been absolutely no entreaties toward carving up anything “Russia,” except getting back Ukrainian territory that Moscow took in 2014 and beyond.

The whole article is based on this utter lie, and I am not a supporter of Ukraine on this issue, either.

I want both sides to lose.

[no-to-illegals]

Don’t worry the Mother of all Diaper Eating Contests os in the works ……. Our Contestants…. pedojoe & putin

[glorgau]

> This is madness.

THIS IS SPARTA!

[A Voice]

I am Spartacus.

[bert]

“Do not take counsel of your fears” General George Patton

[M Kehoe]

Hi.

I believe Larry Johnson is a FReeper.

Fwiw.

5.56mm

[marron]

You can’t blame Putin for believing Ukraine would fold like a cheap suit, and Z would run with a plane load of cash. Almost everyone believed that.

So now he is locked in a fight with a bearcat and has no easy way out.

[Buttons12]

Put yourself in the shoes of the Russian leaders and people.

I just put on my thinking babushka. It says the Russian people would rather whack Putin than fight America. It only needs one Russian to take Putin out. And it wouldn't take eight months like beating Ukraine.

[fireman15]

The article is far less interesting than the comments from those here who are still 100% behind Biden’s latest folly. Get a clue people... This could have been ended months ago if Ukraine agreed that they would not join NATO. It was Biden and company that put the Kibosh on that one and cost us billions in direct costs and far, far more billions in indirect costs. And for what? Russia is an exporter of energy, food, and fertilizer. They don’t need us at all, but when they pack up their marbles and go home it causes a lot of problems for the West.

Unimaginable turmoil is just ahead when energy prices spike this winter. We have had a preview on the West Coast with gasoline prices going up a $1.50 a gallon in 2 weeks in Washington and Oregon and $2.00 in California. But that is nothing compared to the heating fuel expense that is about to hit Western Europe and the USA.

Way to go guys... our efforts are really hurting the Russians and Putin! /s