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Morale is plummeting in Putin’s private army as Russia’s war in Ukraine falters
CNN.com ^ | October 7, 2022 | Saskya Vandoorne, Melissa Bell, Joseph Ataman and Renee Bertini

Posted on 10/07/2022 4:31:28 AM PDT by Timber Rattler

The Ukrainians’ bodies lay side-by-side on the grass, the earth beside them splayed open by a crater. Dragged to the spot by Russian mercenaries, the victims’ arms pointed to where they had died.

“Let’s plant a grenade on them,” a voice says in husky Russian, in what appears to be a plan to booby-trap the bodies.

“There is no need for a grenade, we will just bash them in,” another says of the Ukrainian soldiers who will come to collect the bodies. The mercenaries then realize they have run out of ammunition.

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Wagner’s struggles in Ukraine have set in motion a wider problem: discontent in its ranks. For a group that depends on the appeal of its salaries and work, that’s critical.

From intercepted phone calls, Ukrainian intelligence services in August noted a “general decline in morale and the psychological state” of Wagner troops, Ukrainian defense intelligence spokesman Yusov said. It’s a trend he’s also seen in Russian troops more broadly.

The reduction in Wagner recruitment requirements point to demoralization too, he said, and the number of “truly professional soldiers who are willing to volunteer to fight with Wagner” is also decreasing.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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To: Erik Latranyi; roving

“But you seem to support using NATO forces to fight Russia.’

Where did roving say that? Why do you putinistas always misrepresent what people say?


21 posted on 10/07/2022 5:29:42 AM PDT by vladimir998 ( Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Timber Rattler

I guess russians are not willing to die to fight homos.

Smart.


22 posted on 10/07/2022 5:34:09 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: Erik Latranyi

“Zelensky is throwing bodies at a losing cause. When the ground freezes, Russia is going to run all over the Ukrainian forces.”

Yep, “prediction” to file for future crow meals


23 posted on 10/07/2022 5:35:53 AM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: AndyJackson
The failure of Russian crews to destroy intact equipment before withdrawing or surrendering highlights their poor state of training and low levels of battle discipline.

What idiot abandons working weaponry in a withdrawal, leaving armaments for the enemy?

Biden did.

24 posted on 10/07/2022 5:38:08 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: AndyJackson

Easier to see tanks from the air when the leaves fall.

Also easier to decide to quit stupid war of conquest when freezing, out of ammo, far from ones own home and homeland.

The germans decided to walk home after killing hundreds of thousands of russians in Stalingrad when they just wouldn’t be reasonable and surrender. Wagners, conscripts, and Putin SS will do the same.


25 posted on 10/07/2022 6:03:20 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Erik Latranyi
“When the ground freezes, Russia is going to run all over the Ukrainian forces.”

The russians are only competent when it’s cold? The Ukrainian winter will really, really surprise the Ukrainians?

26 posted on 10/07/2022 6:12:51 AM PDT by Flag_This
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To: Timber Rattler

Becky
@FrogWillWalk
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https://twitter.com/search?q=wagner%20ukraine%20&src=typed_query&f=top

 Sep 29
Have I got a lovely gentleman to introduce you.
He is moving to ukraine. As a member of Wagner
His name is Sergei Butorin and he will be commander of a motorised rifle platoon.

He was sentenced to life in 2011 for 38 murders.

So I'm sure he will integrate well in peace time.

 Image

27 posted on 10/07/2022 6:18:23 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: AndyJackson

You seem to be far behind the times and misunderstand the reality.

Biden insists on courting Iran and a new nuclear deal.

The Saudi’s and the UAE have told Biden that the Trump policy against Iran is inplace and the way forward. Biden insists on trying to replace the Obama Iran nuclear treaty even though those in the Gulf are harmed.

The Arabs are not remaining quiet or pacific. They attacked by raising American Gas prices just before the election. They are not Anti American. They are anti Biden/Democrat

They have done America a great favor


28 posted on 10/07/2022 6:20:15 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: epluribus_2

Yes they will quit and go home to mother Russia
All this 300000 man Putin conscript army of the unwilling. When winter comes, they will go AWOL to the Ukraine’s side or stay static in their camps. Trying to stay warm and have enough of any food to eat.


29 posted on 10/07/2022 6:23:01 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: vladimir998

“Where did roving say that? Why do you putinistas always misrepresent what people say?”

They always lie because it is endemic in the nature of their identity and nationality. They are moral frauds like their nation “Russia”. It is the same reason why its leaders are obsessed with eliminating Ukraine and Ukrainians. Because it is the seat of White Russia, the remnants of the actual Russian nation and people. Acknowledging it and its peoples’ existence discloses the fraud that is “Russia” to be nothing but a criminal gang of posers and frauds born of regicide, usurpation, oppression and murder. It can change its government as many times as it wants but until it confronts its past and is redeemed of its sins it remains the Evil Empire.


30 posted on 10/07/2022 6:33:35 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: Justa

“In the 18th and 19th centuries, the term “White Russian” described ethnic Russians living in the area between Russia and Poland (today this includes Lithuania, Ukraine, Belarus, Latvia and Moldova). By the 1920s, the term was more commonly used for Russians who’d opposed the Bolshevik Revolution and supported the imperial government.”

In contrast to the Mongolian blooded and Mongolianized Russians that are in power in the Kremlin


32 posted on 10/07/2022 6:42:25 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Monterrosa-24

Slava Ukraini! Every hour of every day. David defeating Goliath from Russia. When everyone (me too) thought Putin/Russia would roll over Kiev in February. To take all Ukraine with weeks.


33 posted on 10/07/2022 6:51:09 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Erik Latranyi

“...Zelensky is throwing bodies at a losing cause...”

Spoken like a true commissar. The ground was good, dry, and supportive most of the last two months. What was the Russian excuse then? The Ukrainians fight with the Spirit of ‘76. The Russians fight with the spirit of mercenaries getting a bonus but then realize it ain’t worth it.


34 posted on 10/07/2022 7:00:39 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: Timber Rattler

They also suffered a huge pay cut some months back.


35 posted on 10/07/2022 7:03:25 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: AndyJackson

I thought that they were oversupplied

Your thoughts are clouded with your love for all things Pootie Toot.


36 posted on 10/07/2022 7:05:45 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Travis McGee

The top ones might have a tough time surviving, but they would get excellent medical support.

The bottom ones are all mostly dead.


37 posted on 10/07/2022 7:06:59 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Erik Latranyi

November-December will see mostly frozen Orc troops lacking winter uniforms or any uniforms at all, having had 1.5 million stolen.


38 posted on 10/07/2022 7:09:26 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: gitmo

there is a difference between panicked Orc fleeing and US troops being ordered to abandon their post. Conflation never wins any argument


39 posted on 10/07/2022 7:12:28 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doyTv5JtrVE


40 posted on 10/07/2022 7:44:19 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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