Who is "we"?
Posted on 10/06/2022 7:34:56 AM PDT by RandFan
Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) feuded with billionaire Elon Musk over the SpaceX CEO’s proposed solution to ending the war in Ukraine in a Twitter thread on Wednesday.
Musk asked his more than 100 million followers on Monday to weigh in on his peace proposal, which includes giving the Crimean Peninsula to Russia and holding new elections in four illegally annexed regions. Ukrainian officials have loudly rejected the idea.
Graham, while acknowledging his “respect” for Musk, shot back on Wednesday that his solution is “dumb” and the world’s richest man needs to “understand the facts of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.”
“In 1994, through the Budapest Memorandum, Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons arsenal — the third largest in the world — in return for assurances their territorial integrity would be protected,” the senator wrote. “It was an agreement signed by Russia that included protecting Crimea and the Donbas as part of Ukraine.
“If you want peace in Ukraine — which we ALL do — simply demand Russian honor the boundaries they agreed to in 1994 and withdraw their forces,” Graham added. “To do otherwise is to legitimize a bait and switch by Russia and a signal to other bad actors to take what you want – by force! If Elon Musk and others want the world to continue to be in chaos, then by all means capitulate to [Russian President Vladimir] Putin and reward his aggression.”
The senator, among the fiercest critics of Putin in Congress, also mused that lawmakers should “revisit the electric vehicle tax credit” to pay for more assistance to Ukraine in an apparent financial threat to the Tesla CEO.
Musk said that some portions of eastern Ukraine do wish to be a part of Russia.
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Wealth is NOT the same thing as wisdom. These people think that they can chime in on anything.
Musk is more right than Miss Lindsey who has never seen a war he didn’t like.
I’ve been shot at plenty in my life. I don’t wish that (or the worse things) on any soldier.
Hell, I woke up at 4:30 this morning hyperventilating from a time a SAM almost killed me. And that was decades ago, albeit immediately after a long fast day, which always makes me dream weird.
we like to mock Graham a lot, but he is correct here
Ukraine gets basically nothing out of Musk’s “deal”, while Russia gets to keep all the occupied areas
for any “peace deal” to work, BOTH sides have to compromise
Who is "we"?
Just about everybody on FR mocks “Linda” Graham most of the time
where you been?
Not me. Graham is a war mongering globalist scumbag.
lawmakers should “revisit the electric vehicle tax credit”Musk's genius is that (taxpayers that can't afford his EV) is what made him rich. Then, at least he was smart enough to not do a Solyndra.
Musk fell into the juiciest pyramid/Ponzi scheme ever, where there is no pyramid with endless supplies of tax payer's (investor's?) money. Money you never have to pay back...no ROI.
The people there who want to be part of Russia can always immigrate to Russia if they want it so much, no land can be given to Russia because as Graham correctly points out, you can’t reward this kind of behavior
....mused that lawmakers should “revisit the electric vehicle tax credit” to pay for more assistance to Ukraine...
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Threatening Musk’s business is a classy touch.
Musk’s solution could end this stupid war. Anyone who thinks this will ‘embolden’ Putin is nuts. Putin’s lost a lot of men and he’s not going to be attacking anyone soon. That can be written into the agreement.
And NATO membership? It’s time to STOP pretending we’re in the cold war - we’re NOT. In five years bring Russia into NATO and build a sane alliance.
“peace deal” to work, BOTH sides have to compromiseThe best one is when one concedes he lost, then slinks back home to sulk.
> giving the Crimean Peninsula to Russia <
Nothing wrong with that, as Crimea was Russian for 150+ years before Khrushchev simply gave it to Ukraine in 1954.
> and holding new elections in four illegally annexed regions <
Ridiculous. Unless of course Putin is also willing to hold fair elections in the Chechnya region, in the land the USSR took from Finland, etc. Oh, and how about an election to see if Texas wants to form its own nation?
Countries that favor plebiscites seem to be quite selective in where they will allow a vote.
We have enough Lindsey Graham supporters here, we don't need foreigners shaking his pom-poms.
I'd be 100% behind that.
That's because most everybody on FR is not a fag.
who you calling a foreigner, Irishman?
I’m with you. He’s been awful for America.
I’m an American, you’re a Canadian.
Graham is such a pain in the azz. (No pun intended).
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