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This history of what what has really going on in Ukraine for more than eight years and how we intervened in a way that set off a civil war.

It's a truth the neocon baboons here don't want to acknowledge or face.

1 posted on 09/30/2022 3:47:35 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Since the only neocons present are those who are backing
Russian adventurism, you’re absolutely right.

Glad you’ve finally figured that out.

The we you speak of, is you, your buds, and Vlad Poop’n.


2 posted on 09/30/2022 3:54:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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3 posted on 09/30/2022 3:54:20 PM PDT by Timber Rattler ("To hold a pen is to be at war." --Voltaire)
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To: Kazan

If you don’t believe this analysis, just give Victoria Nuland some chlorophyl and a couple shots of Stoli, and you’ll hear the same.


4 posted on 09/30/2022 3:56:08 PM PDT by nicollo ("I said no!")
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To: Kazan

Lying Russian propaganda.


5 posted on 09/30/2022 4:01:45 PM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: Kazan

Russia just needs to drag its pathetic butt back across the border and leave Ukraine alone.

The end.


6 posted on 09/30/2022 4:03:29 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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“Ukraine - Four Oblasts Join Russia”

Good to see this coming to an end, finally.


7 posted on 09/30/2022 4:03:58 PM PDT by BobL (By the way, low tonight in Estonia: 39 degrees (burrr))
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To: Kazan

Lenin through Krustchev thought the USSR was unbreakable, and also Russian. They also thought that integrating Russians into the outer Republics would make them more Russian and thus more loyal to the Russian Soviets. Furthermore, the annexation of Crimea made Ukraine much more western, and the annexation of these territories will make it even more so


9 posted on 09/30/2022 4:08:03 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Kazan

stop making sense!


10 posted on 09/30/2022 4:12:00 PM PDT by mylife (And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids...)
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To: Kazan

The Donbas remained for the most part under the control of the Ukrainian Cossack Hetmanate and the Turkic Crimean Khanate until the mid-late 18th century, when the Russian Empire conquered the Hetmanate and annexed the Khanate.

According to the Russian Imperial Census of 1897, Ukrainians comprised 52.4% of the population of the region, while ethnic Russians comprised 28.7%. Greeks, Germans, Jews and Tatars also had a significant presence in the Donbas, particularly in the district of Mariupol, where they comprised 36.7% of the population.

In April of 1918 troops loyal to the Ukrainian People’s Republic took control of large parts of the region. For a while, its government bodies operated in the Donbas alongside their Russian Provisional Government equivalents. The Ukrainian State, the successor of the Ukrainian People’s Republic, was able in May 1918 to bring the region under control for a short time with the help of its German and Austro-Hungarian allies.

Along with other territories inhabited by Ukrainians, the Donbas was incorporated into the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic after the Russian Civil War. Cossacks in the region were subjected to a campaign called “decossackisation” from 1919–1921.

Ukrainians living in the Donbas were further decimated by the state-sponsored 1932–33 Holodomor (meaning ‘to kill by starvation’) famine and the Russification policy of Soviet leader Joseph Stalin. Since most ethnic Ukrainians were rural peasant farmers, they bore the brunt of the famine, with the government confiscating their land and removing any means they had to feed themselves.

As part of the wider Soviet famine of 1932–1933 which affected the major grain-producing areas of the country, millions of inhabitants of Ukraine — the majority of whom by now were ethnic Ukrainians — died of starvation in a peacetime catastrophe that was unprecedented in the history of the country.

Since 2006, the Holodomor has been recognized by Ukraine and 15 other countries as a genocide of the Ukrainian people carried out by the Soviet government.

Early estimates of the death toll by scholars and government officials varied greatly. A United Nations joint statement signed by 25 countries in 2003 declared that 7–10 million perished. Current scholarship estimates a range of 4 to 7 million victims, with more precise estimates ranging from 3.3 to 5 million.

According to the findings of the Court of Appeal of Kyiv in 2010, the total demographic losses due to the famine amounted to 10 million, however, with 3.9 million direct famine deaths, and a further 6.1 million birth deficits.

The Russification of the area accelerated after the 1958–59 Soviet educational reforms, which led to the near elimination of all Ukrainian-language schooling in the Donbas.

Really good history summary.

https://greekreporter.com/2022/09/30/history-donbas-donetsk-luhansk/


12 posted on 09/30/2022 4:17:19 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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I believe Russia has legitimate geostrategic...existential interests in Ukraine.

I also believe they have been negligent in not lighting nukes already in a effort to destroy the Ukrainian government and drive all western forces from that land. And to brush back NATO.

That negligence is likely to cost them dearly.

The US has no interests there whatsoever.


17 posted on 09/30/2022 4:29:02 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Kazan

Thank you and bookmarking


18 posted on 09/30/2022 4:30:36 PM PDT by TianaHighrider (God moved David to STAND UP to Goliath ❣)
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To: Kazan
Ukraine - Four Oblasts Join Russia

It sounds so peaceful this joining


21 posted on 09/30/2022 4:51:20 PM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees)
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To: Kazan

Putin’s original military objective was to decapitate the Ukraine government and install a puppet in its place. Tell me how I am wrong.


35 posted on 09/30/2022 5:22:16 PM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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To: Kazan

Those “unruly” republics need to listen to Uncle Putin.


37 posted on 09/30/2022 5:24:06 PM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
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He portrayed Russia as being on a historical mission to reclaim its post-Soviet great power status

Uh, "post-Soviet" was a collapsed mess led by a drunk.* Who, BTW, even then told Slick Willy in 1999 that "Russia" wanted "all of Europe" and all of Asia".

I suspect the wording was supposed to be "Soviet".

Ronald Reagan identified that "great power" as "an evil empire".

He was right.

46 posted on 09/30/2022 6:49:26 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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53 posted on 09/30/2022 8:02:56 PM PDT by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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To: Kazan

Soviet F’in Propaganda.


54 posted on 09/30/2022 8:36:16 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (You wanna talked “rigged election”? Sheesh! : Donetsk. Luhansk. Kherson. Zaporizya. )
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