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New York City Office Space Glut Made Worse By Remote Work As Older Towers Face High
The Markets Cafe ^ | 09/26/2022 | Press Room

Posted on 09/26/2022 9:01:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/26/2022 9:01:26 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Rush Limbaugh predicted this before he died. His exit from NYC was caused by their anal-retentive tax harassment. I believe DJT could testify to this. IMO


2 posted on 09/26/2022 9:14:38 PM PDT by Equine1952
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To: SeekAndFind; dfwgator

(Face High)

Anxiety?


3 posted on 09/26/2022 9:19:13 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: SeekAndFind

What the workers will never mention is the crime rate


4 posted on 09/26/2022 9:24:44 PM PDT by Hambone 1934 (Dems love playing Nazis.....The republicans love helping them)
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To: SeekAndFind
From the article: "Although residential rents in Manhattan were inflated to record highs..."

That's not a sign of an upswing, it's a consequence of failure. Residential rents climbed because of the thousands and thousands of units landlords are keeping off the market after getting burned by the city government via the eviction moratorium during the Scamdemic.

Landlords began holding units off the market even prior to the moratorium due to changes in the law in New York City and aren't going to return them since they have no guarantees the city government won't screw them over again.

5 posted on 09/26/2022 9:32:24 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: SeekAndFind

Think how many illegal aliens could’ve moved into these spaces. They do have bathrooms and kitchens.


6 posted on 09/26/2022 9:41:16 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Homeless and drug addicts would love to be out of the weather.


7 posted on 09/26/2022 10:43:47 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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To: SeekAndFind

But even after Below Average Joe declared the pandemic over vacancies still go up, disproportionately in the most Liberal and crime ridden cities.


8 posted on 09/27/2022 12:30:42 AM PDT by inchworm (al )
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To: T.B. Yoits

This may explain why this office space is not being turned into residential space.

With residential property being “sky high”, I would think there would be an opportunity to convert the offices into apartments or condos. Looks like the developers aren’t stupid.


9 posted on 09/27/2022 1:53:46 AM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: SeekAndFind

…And yet rush hour traffic is the absolute worst I’ve seen in forty years. It’s so bad that I’ve got to tell my dealers that trips to Staten Island are out. Took four hours to get there the other morning.


10 posted on 09/27/2022 2:34:00 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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So who is on the road?


11 posted on 09/27/2022 3:06:11 AM PDT by Chickensoup ( Leftists totalitarian fascists are eradicating conservatives. Leftists are genocidal. )
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To: SeekAndFind

A few things:

1) they are never going to get anywhere near all the toothpaste back in the tube. A lot of office workers are never going back. Of the ones that do go back, the most they will get from them is hybrid (ie 1-2 days a week) instead of 5 days a week in the office.

2) Commercial real estate is in serious trouble. Vacancies are high. Values are declining. What do you think the future looks like? Companies will look to downsize their offices. Pre-existing commercial real estate rental contracts are one of the only things keeping onsite work rates as high as they are now. A lot of those contracts will not be renewed.

3) Remote work for the very first time in 150 years incentivizes moving out of big cities and into small towns and rural settings.

4) Big expensive cities like NYC, San Francisco, Chicago, LA, are going to feel the pain first and most acutely. Why endure the pollution, traffic, crime, high prices for everything, etc if you don’t have to? If you are a single person making $125K per year in NYC you are definitely not rich. Your lifestyle is middle class. How does $125K a year sound for a single person in say - Charleston, West Virginia? What do you think happens to your standard of living as soon as you get the hell out of NYC?

5) Do I even need to point out that those cities are all deeply blue and that as White collar jobs flow out of them, that weakens the Democrat party machines there - OR - that as people move away from bigger cities with public this and government that and are forced to become more self sufficient, that will change their voting behavior?

I haven’t worked in an office since the start of Covid. I’m a consultant so I’ve been through the hiring cycle multiple times in the last 3 years. Its been a little bit more difficult to get jobs that are 100% remote in the last 6 months or so but I’m still able to do it......which means I have no reason to ever return to the office. No unpaid stressful and expensive commutes. No being under the thumb of ueber Leftist HR departments. More freedom.


12 posted on 09/27/2022 3:51:24 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: wintertime

They will have to convert the excess office space to residential space eventually. There’s nothing else to do with it. Those laws and zoning restrictions they mentioned? They’ll get changes in the law or waivers. City governments will want some kind of revenue from that space rather than nothing and they’ll be desperate to retain people as the population bleed continues from all the now remote former office workers leaving the cities entirely.


13 posted on 09/27/2022 3:54:12 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: T.B. Yoits

If what you are saying is true, then in would expect to see a flood of conversions from rentals to condos or co-ops in NYC. That would be the most effective way to deal with fears over idiotic government regulation of the rental market.


14 posted on 09/27/2022 4:00:15 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: TalBlack

Rush hour traffic is terrible in NYC because a lot of people forced back into the office don’t want to ride on public transit. Take one bus load of commuters out of the system and they are replace by 50+ cars. One NJ Transit or Metro North train can have a thousand riders.


15 posted on 09/27/2022 4:03:23 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: FLT-bird

Don’t forget that some employers might be concerned that the city/state that forced them to have people work remotely might be afraid of the city/state flexing its muscle again - and the employers themselves might be very motivated to leave these authoritarian dumps.


16 posted on 09/27/2022 4:14:34 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: SeekAndFind

Will Built to Suit?


17 posted on 09/27/2022 5:04:42 AM PDT by Jolla
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…And yet rush hour traffic is the absolute worst I’ve seen in forty years. It’s so bad that I’ve got to tell my dealers that trips to Staten Island are out. Took four hours to get there the other morning.

Rush hour traffic is bad because people who previously took mass transit are driving. It started during the Scamdemic with empty streets and unsafe mass transit. Their driving, even tolerating heavy traffic, shows that the numbers of commuters are far lower than 2019.

18 posted on 09/27/2022 5:12:28 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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More and more of my coworkers that previously commuted to their jobs are not only working remote, they've relocated to less expensive states.

They're not coming back. They sold their houses at peak price and moved to follow their parents who retired and watch the kids along with siblings who made the same decision to relocate.

19 posted on 09/27/2022 5:16:06 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: FLT-bird

6. Cities are obsolete


20 posted on 09/27/2022 5:24:23 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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