Putin was 'pushed' into Ukraine war - Berlusconi

BBC ^ | 9/23/22 | MSM

[JonPreston]

Former Italian PM Silvio Berlusconi has defended Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine, saying Russia's leader was "pushed" into the conflict.

"The war in Ukraine is the tip of the iceberg of a conflict aimed at reshaping the world order," she said earlier this month. "So we have to fight this battle."

[JonPreston]

The Day of Deceit was a great book on the subject.

[DIRTYSECRET]

Your enemies. What you do is have nothing to do with them. Ann Rynd said it in an interview. Cutting off trade is perfectly alright. Supplying the enemy of another is perfectly within those limits.

Did the Lusitania carry weapons? Was flight 007 a spy plane? Let’s be more upfront about our interests. Biden’s in office. We have to deal with it and it ain’t pretty. Wouldn’t happen under Trump-does it matter now?

[joshua c]

they goaded by saying they were going to add Ukraine to NATO

but they had no intention

Putin was stupid to take the bait

He could have threatened his own sanctions, ie oil, if they tried which they had no intention of doing anyway

Zelensky said they were giving public speechs about Ukraine in NATO but privately they told him no way

[skeeter]

Facing the prospect of the first gas-less European winter in 150 years is focusing many minds over there.

[JonPreston]

a family of pigs. Keep in mind, Zelenskyy is worth 10s of millions of dollars, and Neocons have no clue how he accumulated that wealth, nor do they care.

[Farmerbob]

I thought they were nazis that hated jews? Have we been lied to?

[hardspunned]

“The war in Ukraine is the tip of the iceberg of a conflict aimed at reshaping the world order,” she said earlier this month. “So we have to fight this battle.”

WTF is that?!?

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[alexander_busek]

Did we push Japan into attacking Pearl Harbor?

And the Jews "pushed" Hitler into shoving them into the ovens.

/mordant sarcasm

Regards,

[aMorePerfectUnion]

It’s much more complicated.

Soros is Jewish and hates Jews…

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Godwin’s Law

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Record Numbers Have Quit Finland Army Reserves Since Russia Invasion

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/09/10/record-numbers-have-quit-finland-army-reserves-since-russia-invasion/

[Ann Archy]

Is THAT TRUE?

[Does so]

First Orban. Then Trump! Now Berlusconi agrees with us?”

I see it as a call for a cease-fire and negotiations.

[alexander_busek]

Godwin’s Law

Which I do not recognize.

When someone comments about the Japanese attacking Pearl Harbor, it is perfectly germane and legitimate to draw a comparison with the Nazis.

Regards,

[BobL]

“Putin was ‘pushed’ into Ukraine war - Berlusconi”

Didn’t realize that Berlusconi was also part of the Putin Propaganda Machine, but he must be, if he opposes WW3.

[ganeemead]

You say that ukrainians did not want to be invaded?? Then perhaps they should have avoided the following:

• Handing their country over to George Soros ,Bork Obunga, SlicKKK KKKlintler, Patricia Nuland and other transnational gangsters for nefarious purposes and usages.
• Allowing their Nation to be made into a planetary epicenter for child trafficking, money laundering , and every other kind of major International gangsterism.
• Shelling the innocent people of the Donbass on a daily basis after the Nazi takeover in 2014
• attempting to implement genocidal policies ( Banning the use of Russian language in ethnic Russian regions).
• Allowing American interests to construct and operate 75 illegal biowar Laboratories within their nation's territory. This action by itself would have constituted sufficient reason for Russians to invade.
• Placing NATO weapons at Russia's doorstep from their territory despite repeated warnings from Russia that this amounted to Crossing an absolute Redline.
• Attempting to actually join nato. All I've ever seen nato do is attack and bomb innocent people and I'm an American; Putin and Russian officials who have to deal with those wankers on a daily basis probably have more reasons for disliking them than I do...
• Seeking to acquire nuclear weapons. Ukraine after all is not a legitimate nation; more like a Nazi army occupying land that has been expropriated from Poland, Romania, and Russia. Nobody wants nazis living nextdoor to them and especially not nuclear-armed nazis...

[Robert DeLong]

Your statement is not even relevant.

[ganeemead]

Food looks a bit better than the one or two potatoes a day the ukie conscripts are trying to survive on.....

[Ciaphas Cain]

I cannot believe that this war which has killed and displaced so many people, can at all be a righteous one.

Ukraine's people should not be disposable pawns in whatever game that Putin and the west are playing.