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Putin was 'pushed' into Ukraine war - Berlusconi
BBC ^ | 9/23/22 | MSM

Posted on 09/25/2022 6:21:29 AM PDT by JonPreston

Former Italian PM Silvio Berlusconi has defended Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine, saying Russia's leader was "pushed" into the conflict.

"The war in Ukraine is the tip of the iceberg of a conflict aimed at reshaping the world order," she said earlier this month. "So we have to fight this battle."

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To: Monterrosa-24; NorseViking
There is a photo going around Ukrainian social media showing the Soviet Union National Soccer Team from the 1980s. It has one Tatar, one Russian, and the rest were Ukrainians.

Independent Ukraine hasn't qualified for the Word Cup since 2006...so what does that tell you? 🤔

81 posted on 09/25/2022 9:18:13 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: mac_truck

LOL. My point exactly.


82 posted on 09/25/2022 9:19:54 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: JonPreston

And now he’s being pushed back out. LOL!

Russia’s catastrophic rout continues unabated.


83 posted on 09/25/2022 9:32:54 AM PDT by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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To: Vaden
Russia’s catastrophic rout continues unabated.

Neocon Nonsense.

84 posted on 09/25/2022 9:34:28 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

Putinist doggerel.

The facts show what I say is true. (Satellite imagery, eyewitness, abandoned RuSSian posts, abandoned (often faulty) RuSSian equipment, surrendering RuSSian soldiers, Ukrainian continued advances further and further into RuSSian lines, and more.)

You, by contrast, post NO EVIDENCE at all. Just Kremlin propaganda.

You keep dreaming, but NOTHING is going to stop it.


85 posted on 09/25/2022 9:43:55 AM PDT by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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To: Vaden
The facts show what I say is true.

You are a Neocon and as such unable to sort truth from fiction, which your homepage hakes clear. You're a mess, having moved from liberal to neoconservative in one political continuum.

86 posted on 09/25/2022 9:46:59 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

87 posted on 09/25/2022 9:50:19 AM PDT by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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To: Vaden

Neocon, please learn to properly size .gifs before posting. And get married, for crying out loud. People are talking!


88 posted on 09/25/2022 9:52:15 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Its All Over Except ...
Polls: Americans Oppose Increasing Ukraine Aid, Defending Global Democracy
Absolutely agree.
89 posted on 09/25/2022 10:28:13 AM PDT by citizen (Thieves of private property pass their lives in chains; thieves of public prop. in riches and luxury)
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To: existentially_kuffer

Silvio Berlusconi...and later, “she said”...?


90 posted on 09/25/2022 10:50:32 AM PDT by DPMD ( )
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To: bert

American racism at work again, targeting the poor yellow people.’

Completely unrelated to the invasion of China, rape of Nanking, militant nationalism under Tojo and the desire to rule SE Asia.

Your sense of history is enviable.


91 posted on 09/25/2022 10:53:38 AM PDT by DPMD ( )
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Did we push Japan into attacking Pearl Harbor?

________________________________________

Not only did we, the FDR administration knew the attack would happen in advance and did nothing to stop it.


92 posted on 09/25/2022 11:46:03 AM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Yes


93 posted on 09/25/2022 2:34:13 PM PDT by Oil Object Insp
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To: JonPreston

Bingo!


94 posted on 09/25/2022 2:57:13 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: Gen.Blather
Ukraine was about to join the EU...

Only after reforms (kill the worst of the corruption) and after many steps and considerable time.

Remember Zelenskyy pleading to be let in, shortly after the attempts by Russia to take Kyiv? His frustration in the slow process was palpable.

and become a member of NATO.

No. Too many NATO countries opposed that, including some majors. Their veto power is absolute, and NATO actually does follow its own procedural rules. Only a major mistake by Russia could have changed that (which it may have.) The pap that the Biden Admin. put out was just that, and Pooty and his pals could not possibly not know it. That doesn't prevent them from fabricating an external threat (NATO) though. It's one of the oldest tricks in the book.

Agreed that a progressing Ukraine would be a severe threat as you describe. However, I've come to believe that control of resources (prevent Ukraine from becoming a serious competitor to Russian petro sales to Europe, etc.), the gaining of strategic resources (warm water shipyard, for one), and simply getting a stronger Ukraine out of the way of Russian Empire -- sort of an overall strategic package, was even more a factor in Russia's decision to invade. After all, Ukraine would fall quickly (/s), and a weak / "sissified" Europe + US (Biden) would be too fearful to undo it, right?

95 posted on 09/25/2022 3:57:22 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Pushed into war?? Hillarious.
Does that mean Putin has no character - falling that easyly into western chess players trap?
If this was a trap by the west (and it’s not) he clearly shows he is not much smarter than a teen age boy full of testosterone in the middle of his puberty!


96 posted on 09/25/2022 5:14:11 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Putin is sucking the money out of the Russian people.
The most corrupt man in Russian history.
He is a Russian warmongering neocon, sending 300000 poor Russians (not the elite boys in Moscow), farmers etc. to go kill their Ukrainian brothers. Where is the glory in this horror ?
What a mess those Kremlin communists are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIocvcfH-hI


97 posted on 09/25/2022 5:24:38 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

So… you’re saying Zelensky isn’t quite as corrupt as Putin??

OK…

I consider both corrupt.


98 posted on 09/25/2022 5:37:00 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

What I am saying is that most politicians are.
The thing is, some here on FreeRepublic only say Zelesky is corrupt, while giving Putin a free pass. Evidently, that is deeply unfair, to such a point it can be considered as pro-russian propaganda.


99 posted on 09/25/2022 5:42:59 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: USA-FRANCE

I don’t know what others believe, but I believe they are both corrupt.


100 posted on 09/25/2022 5:50:36 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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