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Federal Court Rejects Trump’s Special Master Review, Instead Trusting FBI Completely
Federalist ^ | SEPTEMBER 22, 2022 | BY: MARGOT CLEVELAND

Posted on 09/22/2022 7:52:22 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger; ransomnote; steve w; Cletus.D.Yokel
I'm trying to follow whatever logic can be found in this clusterf@ck.

AG Merrick "Torquemada" Garland convinced the court that it needs access to all of Trump's "classified" documents in order to continue the persecution of the 45th President. Trump says they are all declassified. Some may still have markings, and many were likely mis-classified simply to hide the FBI/DoJ crimes.

So, the Special Master is not allowed to help the court determine what is indeed still classified (there are none IMHO), and only then release the documents to the inquisitors to maintain their torturing of Trump, the Constitution, and the law.

Since the DoJ thinks they know better (Trump stole classified documents which are still classified) and will not allow a Special Master to determine classification as well as the FBI justification to have Trump's will, tax returns, and attorney-client documents, etc., the DoJ has become a self-licking lollypop with absolutely no oversight from Congress or the courts. They act with impunity.

41 posted on 09/22/2022 9:08:06 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: SERKIT

Essentially the DOJ is hiding behind the ‘National Security’ screen....................


42 posted on 09/22/2022 9:09:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: packagingguy

Because the speech was a long time ago.

This “conspiracy” has been kicking around for months.

There are always a bunch of new ones popping up around the Jewish holidays as well.

Making predictions about these things are a waste of time. If you read enough of them you can shoehorn just about anything into one or two. But the masses forget there were a thousand others that could not be fit.

I am still waiting for the briefcase nukes from 9/11 and the Gitmo trials of Hillary and Obama. And now that the queen is dead—who will procure the child blood for the rest of the Lizard people.


43 posted on 09/22/2022 9:17:32 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: SERKIT
Trump says they are all declassified.

Not to the judge or the SM he doesn’t.

He tells that to conservative media but his lawyers refuse to make that claim in any venue where it matters.

No one is legally disputing that the documents marked as classified really are, so there’s no basis not to give the DOJ access.

44 posted on 09/22/2022 9:18:42 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: RideForever

That is standard procedure. The target, nor anyone else, is permitted to be in the location of the search.


45 posted on 09/22/2022 9:19:00 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: ballplayer

Or…it might just be that Trump wasn’t following the rules. And that is why “he cannot catch a break.”

When it seems that you lose at just about every turn you either have bad attorneys or, maybe, you are not doing something right.


46 posted on 09/22/2022 9:21:48 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: packagingguy

Bkmk


47 posted on 09/22/2022 9:23:54 AM PDT by sauropod (Unbelief has nothing to say. Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Red Badger

This is stupid. There is no such thing as “proving the documents are declassified”. Under the Presidential Records Act whatever documents the Presidents deems as “personal records” are released to him regardless of classification when he leaves office.

A US District Court already ruled on this in the case of the Clinton audio tapes of White House conversations that he kept in his sock drawer. They were ruled personal records and Judicial Watch was denied access to them via a FOIA request.


48 posted on 09/22/2022 9:31:27 AM PDT by Dave Wright
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To: frogjerk

It doesn’t matter who appointed the judges.

What matters is whether we have, or do not have, a unitary executive as described in Article II.

This has been a festering sore since Watergate (and maybe since 11/22/63), and it needs to be resolved.

The President is not a King, in that he cannot make laws or give orders to Congress. But if he is not in charge of the Executive Branch, then the crown is truly hollow.


49 posted on 09/22/2022 9:35:33 AM PDT by Jim Noble (And manly hearts to guard the fair)
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To: Dave Wright

I’m just playing devil’s advocate here. Did Trump ever claim these as personal records? He should have done it right up front when they first started asking them returned. I’ve said all along the President has had terrible legal advice.


50 posted on 09/22/2022 9:44:53 AM PDT by sunny bonobo
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To: packagingguy

Declassification of Certain Materials Related to the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation
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Why can’t we all admit that even though Trump was a great president, sometimes he does some stupid things. Namely waiting til his last day in office to initiate this order. There is no way the redacted documents were returned to the White House before his exit. So therefore, if the docs he has are these he is in possession of the original unredacted classified material, which by his own actions are still classified.


51 posted on 09/22/2022 10:19:30 AM PDT by sunny bonobo
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To: Red Badger

So the bottom line is if you come before the 11th Circuit Court and the Government is prosecuting you then in Court’s eyes you are a liar and you are guilty.

IOW, The 11th Circuit Court is NOT part of the Judiciary but simply a rubber stamp for the Executive branch.

Does Justice Thomas realize what is going on?


52 posted on 09/22/2022 10:38:33 AM PDT by Colo9250
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To: sunny bonobo
Did Trump ever claim these as personal records?

No, not to a court.

It’s just like his claims of election fraud. He said things to his supporters and to social media but when asked in a venue that matters, like a court, he said he wasn’t alleging fraud.

53 posted on 09/22/2022 10:46:09 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: Red Badger

Wouldn’t you think Trump’s attorneys would have shared that concept with the court?

But after reading more about this, I realized that the Appeals Court would not have cared, no matter what proof of declassification was presented. Their ruling was that the DoJ gets to decide anything it wants in secret. No one else can review the documents or DoJ/FBI decisions if they say the words “national security”. Freedom is dead.


54 posted on 09/22/2022 11:12:21 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Chewbarkah

“National Security” is the blanket that covers all sins.

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel..............


55 posted on 09/22/2022 11:14:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

ROFLMAO

trust the FBI?? they’ve proven themselves to be partisan lapdogs of the left.

pure witch hunt followed by a lynching in the banana court system


56 posted on 09/22/2022 12:18:58 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Red Badger

I’m convinced those three Judges received a visit in person or by phone by someone/somebodies who suggested that the DOJ and FBI could use a little help by way of a hosing down of all the DIRT that surrounds those agencies.

And the Judges opened the hoses, sprayed them with fresh water and now ...they are SQUEAKY CLEAN AND THEY CAN DO NO WRONG. They were respectful at the RAID, they were courteous to those present and NO, THEY NEVER LEAKED ANY INFORMATION.

Those three judges must be sharing ONE BRAIN...OR

They just flew in from vacation in the middle of THE SAHARA.


57 posted on 09/22/2022 12:31:12 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: Boogieman

I’m not a lawyer either, but it doesn’t take a lawyer to realize that any protections the Constitution offers are meaningless to a lawless government.


Exactly.

And that is why we have the Constitution. The Constitution gives us the tools to prevent the very things that are taking place with Trump, with those who peacefully attended January 6 (not those who actually committed crimes).

So my question really is: Where in the hell are the judges and lawyers who are supposed to put the wheels in motion to stop this abuse?

And I suppose I should ask where are the congress critters who also have a big stake in constitutional government, but they are probably all at the club having a drink


58 posted on 09/22/2022 3:45:33 PM PDT by old curmudgeon (There is no situation so bad that the federal government can not make worse.)
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To: Round Earther

WE gave ‘Security Clearance’ to a Kenyan Muslim who hates America.........


59 posted on 09/22/2022 3:58:58 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: RideForever

I’m with you as well. Why can’t/didn’t the lawyers argue this one point. Trumps lawyers were ordered to wait outside while they searched Trump’s home. How is anyone protected from search and seizure if your attorney is not allowed to see what is being ?

Trump should have made his own SCIF on his property vs. placing files in a locked basement on his compound.


60 posted on 09/22/2022 5:57:07 PM PDT by Engedi
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