Posted on 09/14/2022 10:46:32 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
The first statement made by European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen in her annual State of the European Union address on Wednesday was not verbal, but visual. Clad in bright blue and yellow alongside other senior politicians, she showed support for Ukraine's battle with Russia, making clear even before the speech began that the war would top the agenda.
With Ukrainian First Lady Olena Zelenska in Strasbourg for the occasion, von der Leyen pledged Europe's "unshakeable" commitment to Kyiv, sending a defiant message to Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow.
"Putin will fail and Europe will prevail," the chief of the EU executive branch said. "I want to make it very clear, the sanctions are here to stay," von der Leyen stressed, listing off the damage so far inflicted on Russia by punitive measures: a financial sector "on life support," the departure of almost 1,000 international firms and car production down 75% from last year.
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You are like Liberals looking for whose ancestors owned slaves.
I would support Taiwan aid as there is no ambiguity about who are the assholes in that region
I would support Taiwan aid as there is no ambiguity about who are the assholes in that regionPost that on an Australian forum where someone might care.
After you join a EU loving forum
There are different opinions and actual politics in Poland.
The EU (German) complaint was against the majority PiS government in Poland, which is socially conservative (among other things). PiS remains in the majority and seems likely to stay that way.
Oh. No crazy paranoid NAZIS rant for Australia supporting supposed Nazi in Ukraine.
Isn’t that special?
I am a Conservative American citizen supporting Ukrainians defending their Freedom.
You are a disgusting Putin Stooge and a foreign one at that.
You will be judged by God in part for your support of the Russian Terror invasion of Ukraine.
Good luck with that.
Who told you that?
Russians are ALWAYS assholes.
It is just the way they are.
Their culture and collective psychology was wrecked by the Mongol conquests and they’ve never gotten over it.
Do you oppose the EU project? Do you support Brexit. Or perhaps down the track other European countries escaping it’s smothering embrace?
Do you think Kosovo should be returned to Serbia? Is the annexed Golan part of Israel?
As an American Conservative I support Freedom of Assembly.
I fully support UK’s decision to leave the EU and any member can do the same.
Do you support Putin’s Nazi Terror invasion of Ukraine?
Are you of German descent?
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I support Russians in Ukraine choosing their destiny. Nato decided Albanians could determine their owm future using military force to support. If Russia wants to actively help russians do the same, who are we to argue
Excuse me foreigner, that Freedom loving Aussies wouldn’t piss on if you were on fire, but your dime is up. I think I made clear enough I don’t care what a paranoid Putin Stooge foreigner thinks about me or anything else.
I support Russians in Ukraine choosing their destiny.I'll just let that bit of disgusting stupidity reverberate around the Universe...
This parallels feedback I’m getting from even fairly conservative friends in Europe. (Fairly conservative for Europe, that is.) Right or wrong, they see Putin as being the main reason for their economic problems, followed closely by disgust at their own pols’ lack of action / weakness / dithering.
I’ll just assume then that you are some demented kraut living in the U.S but pining for the good old days of the third reich.
Bots are easy to spot; they copy and paste the same slogans if not the same posts in their entirety. Far more pro Putin posters do that.
Shills aren’t bots but they still have their tells. For example, they often point at media links without demonstrating any indication that they looked at other sources, or objectively scrutinized the content before coming to a conclusion on it.
Fanboys just believe anything that a specific commentator says and don’t tolerate any unpicking of it. They seek validation for their guru worship, not verification of the guru’s conclusion.
I’m not in the “trust in A Plan” camp or “trust but verify only in one direction” camp; I’m in the “prove you’re right and I’ll rethink my position” camp.
I’m currently wargaming multiple interpretations, theories and predictions on Russia-Ukraine. Surprising as it may be to you, but I’ve moved from being pro separatist but not pro Russia from 2014 to 2019 (as they were provoking Euromaidan as much if not more than the West was), to being swung round by Zelenskyy and the DPR both making solid attempts to end the conflict.
Since Zhirinovsky straight out told the Duma that Putin already had an invasion date set, and Russia clamped down so tight on domestic press freedom, I looked again objectively at ALL parties’ arguments.
Putin had his own agenda, the civilian separatists and D/LPR weren’t fully on board with it, the DPR and LPR PARAMILITARY wings were telling Putin what he wanted to hear, he ignored all other sources and arguments.
Putin had every option on the table to avoid a Special Military Operation including revocation of anti Russian language laws, Denazification and Zelenskyy giving a complete ruling out of NATO membership.
He still went ahead because Pushilin green-lit it with a bullshit, non evidenced claim that Zelenskyy was about to Invade the Donbass.
By that point i was still unsure if this was cock-up rather than conspiracy but then out came the dress uniforms, the Z symbol (half finished swastika), the conscripts illegally deployed, the Chechens, and Wagner. The rapit pivoting from one Causus Belli to another depending on who’s asking and when. The genocidal talk on State television completely contradicting the benign motives given in February.
There’s zero doubt in my mind now that Putin wasn’t led astray, this is exactly what he’s been planning to do for years. And he presents the biggest threat to peace in Europe since the breakup of Yugoslavia.
Now I’m giving the Ukes the exact same scrutiny. Yanukovych and Azarov were in on Putin’s steal and architects of their own exile, Poroshenko was a pro Nazi rat, and Z is somewhere in between.
You show me anywhere on the internet that matches this post. There won’t be, because unlike propagandists on both sides i put everything together before i reach a conclusion, i don’t set out with a theory and cherry pick the evidence that’ll fit it.
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