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Russian elite airborne regiment was completely wiped out in recent days
https://www.defenceview.in ^ | September 14, 2022 | Ankit Verma

Posted on 09/14/2022 8:03:12 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

The Ukrainian army’s offensive continues, and the Russian army’s defeat or “regrouping” in Kharkiv is having an impact across the board. Now, no one knows where the Ukrainian army’s counter-offensive will stop.

With the loss of strategic locations such as Izum, the Russian army is considered to be likely to abandon the entire Kharkov. Of course, even so, I think it will be difficult to hold back. Many of the Russian troops attacked by the Ukrainian army, whether they were regular Russian troops, Donbas militia or Chechen troops, were on the verge of collapse and fled. Some analysts believe that the performance of the Russian army was not even as good as that of the former Afghan government.

At present, the specific losses of the Russian army in this battle are still unclear. In addition to the continued counterattack, the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense is still implementing strict front-line information control, and the Russian Ministry of Defense has often avoided talking about the front-line situation.

However, judging from some public reports, the losses of the Russian army are very serious, and for some Russian fans with poor psychological endurance, it is simply a disaster. The General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces stated that the 237th Russian Airborne Assault Regiment (Toronsky Airborne Assault Regiment) was completely destroyed in the northeast of Kharkiv, and this is likely not the only loss of the Russian army in this counter-offensive.

The video released by the Ukrainian side shows that a large number of heavy weapons have fallen into the hands of the Ukrainian army, and there are likely to be thousands of them, including advanced T-90M main battle tanks and 2S19M2 self-propelled artillery units. Only a small part of these abandoned heavy weapons were damaged by the Russian army, most of them are intact or can be repaired quickly. Let’s not talk about the Russian army deliberately discarding old equipments.

These captured weapons can not only supplement the Ukrainian army’s battle losses, but also upgrade more Ukrainian mobilized infantry brigades into mechanized brigades, greatly improving their ability to attack fortifications. So many weapons have been seized since the beginning of the war that many analysts think that the United States and other countries just handed Ukraine knives behind their backs, while Russia handed Ukraine a mace in person, calling it Ukraine’s largest military aid country.

A lot of information shows that the Russian army was extremely chaotic in the emergency “regrouping”. In addition to the collapse of many troops and the abandonment of a large amount of equipment, they were still in retreat and even deliberately did not notify the friendly forces at all. Chechen President Ramzan Kadyrov angrily declared that when the Russian 20th Army was withdrawing from Izum (which did not appear to have surrendered), the nearby Chechen troops were not notified at all, and all senior officers of the 20th Army were withdrawn.

In an interview with the British “Financial Times”, Ukrainian Defense Minister Reznekov admitted that the smoothness of this counter-offensive far exceeded expectations. In the race, the current priority is to ensure that the Ukrainian army continues to control the recaptured territory and prevent possible Russian counterattacks.

Although there are still some analysts who openly claim that the Russian army is luring the enemy deeper and may counterattack, a source in the Ukrainian army who did not want to be identified told The Economist that the Russian army is likely to lack sufficient strength to counterattack, they are even unable to stop the offensive momentum of the Ukrainian army. The anonymous person also claimed that the important reason for the success of the Ukrainian army’s counter-offensive was to contain the Russian Aerospace Forces.

Even Russian fighter planes with various active and passive defense systems are still suppressed by the Ukrainian air defense network at low and ultra-low altitudes, trapped in a fire network composed of Ukrainian short-range air defense systems and portable air defense missiles. The Russian army has no ability to suppress the air defense of the Ukrainian air defense network at all.

The overall situation of Kharkov has been decided, where will the Ukrainian army exert its strength next? Many people said that while the Ukrainian army was counterattacking, the Russian army also launched an attack in Kherson. If you think about it, you can see how unreliable this is. If the Russian army is going to launch an attack in Kherson, are there enough troops, ammunition, and fuel? ? The Russian army in Kherson has actually become a dead chess game because the main line of communication has been cut off. The latest news shows that the Russian army not only did NOT launch an attack, but instead gave up the strategically important Snykhurivka and concentrated its forces more in city of Kherson, as a whole, retreated 5-10 kilometers, and withdrew to the range of the Russian artillery on the left bank of the Dnieper. It seems that the great success of the Ukrainian army in Kharkov deterred this quasi-lone army in Kherson.

Russian intelligence shows that the Ukrainian army is gathering in Uglidar, ready to make another big move to cut off the connection between Donetsk and Mariupol, and cut off the Russian army front. As for what will happen, it is not easy for us to make predictions. Let’s continue to observe and see how much the Ukrainian counterattack can achieve.


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To: Jeff Chandler

Everyone is lying, except you?


41 posted on 09/14/2022 10:10:38 AM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: Midwesterner53
Everyone is lying, except you?

I'm talking about media reports, and anyone who does not begin with a default position that the media are lying, is a fool.

“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the "wet streets cause rain" stories. Paper's full of them.
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In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.
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That is the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. I'd point out it does not operate in other arenas of life. In ordinary life, if somebody consistently exaggerates or lies to you, you soon discount everything they say. In court, there is the legal doctrine of falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus, which means untruthful in one part, untruthful in all. But when it comes to the media, we believe against evidence that it is probably worth our time to read other parts of the paper. When, in fact, it almost certainly isn't. The only possible explanation for our behavior is amnesia.”

― Michael Crichton

42 posted on 09/14/2022 10:14:12 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Midwesterner53

Your reply sounds like it came from Rachel Maddow, liberal.

She has said similar things with her passing so much off as “Russian propaganda” for years now.

You belong on MSNBC or working for some Biden government agency.


43 posted on 09/14/2022 10:22:00 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

so many trolls with propaganda
so little time


44 posted on 09/14/2022 10:22:04 AM PDT by CarolinaReaganFan
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To: canuck_conservative

All you have is name calling and AD Homs, Biden supporter, just like all the others here with no substantive retort and deflecting from Biden’s war causing a mess as it all goes back to him and Obama supporting a coup in 2014 in Ukraine of a legally elected president there.

Learn to be and talk like a conservative and provide something to at least try to back up your nonsense or you are a liar.


45 posted on 09/14/2022 10:30:53 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Petrosius; Kazan
And the source for this intel is?

Kazan received his talking points for today from Moscow Central. Don't ask questions!

46 posted on 09/14/2022 11:04:39 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Its All Over Except ...; Fred Nerks

The justification for this by neocons, if true, would be “Putin mean, Russia bad” akin to Clinton saying “Slobo mean, Serbia bad” or Obama saying “Gaddafi mean, Libya bad” to justify NATO involvement in those countries, which was against their defensive charter they attacking offensively and especially so since neither Serbia nor Libya attacked a NATO member.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yours is a more than astute Observation. I will go a little further.The Obama grift in Liya to get NATO to act as a neo colonial power was done on behalf of brown and black people everywhere.ARAB SPRING! NATO is actually in deep trouble now because of this fact.The Russians realized that NATO is not defensive long ago.

NATO gratuitously destroyed the Great Man Made River which was greening the Libyan Southern desert, called by many , the 8th wonder of the world. It was an act of clear malice and infamy. Thousands starved and died of thirst. But the MSM reports? crickets. Hillary justified the attack on Libya by Gadaffi keeping an all female praetorian guard, all of whom were attending University in the face of traditional Muslim opposition to educated females, but we won’t mention that , eh?.Gadaffi was bringing Libya into the modern world and was an ally of the USA.Obama hated Gadaffi because Gadaffi whacked the Muslom Brothergood and kept then out of Central Africa and Egypt but alas, now we have Boko Haram and others because of Obama, exactly the result that OBUNGO wanted.

Obama and Hillary Clinton destroyed NATO. NATO is a dead man walking and barely knows it.Its history of failure in Serbia,Libya and now in Ukraine will lead to its disarray and destruction. Biden is assuring that outcome, and the NWO seeks to replace NATO following instead of traditional defence, rather the policies of Klaus Schwab’s World Economic Council and its totalitarian iperatiives, including draconian envoronmental taxation and state sponsored euthanasia.

NATO as it has been historically is finished.


47 posted on 09/14/2022 11:05:30 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Liked that post a lot, Jeff.


48 posted on 09/14/2022 11:17:50 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: Candor7

By the time NATO revealed itself, not so much as a defensive alliance as an offensive one, Serbian civilians found themselves the target of a military offensive ostensibly to punish them for their government’s ruthless policies in Kosovo. Never mind the fact that there was a secessionist movement on home soil also dedicated to extreme violence...

The bombings by NATO started on March 24, 1999, and lasted for 78 days. 2,300 missiles and 14,000 bombs were used on as many as 990 targets across Serbia, killing over 2,000 civilians. Vital infrastructure was crippled and not so vital military targets hit. Residents were also targets of Depleted Uranium munitions, a legacy that continues to menace survivors. In the talk about ethnic cleansing, replete in conversations about what Serb authorities were doing to Albanians, some 200 thousand ethnic Serbs were forced to leave Kosovo.

https://intpolicydigest.org/bombs-failed-nato-serbia-15-years/


49 posted on 09/14/2022 11:21:11 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

I think NATO is devolving. President Trump tried to reighn them in by making them pay more for their own defense.But post Trump they spent more money on Klaus Schwabs NWO policies, which are the ruination of traditional NATO roles.

NATO is being ground down by Russia, and interesting that the news of recent Ukrainian advances against Russia are not being reproted in Israel as any great success. NATO is reduced to pumping up any positive news from the Ukrainian effort. Essentially Ukraine is nothing but a huge money laundering operation for the left in America and for the Schwabers of Europe.


50 posted on 09/14/2022 11:36:00 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

” large number of heavy weapons have fallen into the hands of the Ukrainian army, and there are likely to be thousands of them, including advanced T-90M main battle tanks and 2S19M2 self-propelled artillery units...”

That’s one way to solve an artillery shortage, just get the enemy to run away and capture theirs.


51 posted on 09/14/2022 12:16:04 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: FreshPrince
My point is, there is good guys and gals in Ukraine. They are the citizens of Ukraine who dont want foreign armies on their soil.

Except for the actual Nazi's that were in the Azov battalion and the massacres by the Ukes in the Donbas area. Both sides are dirty.

52 posted on 09/14/2022 1:27:35 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (F*ck Joe Biden!)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Kremlin lies.

The invaders are the dirty ones.


53 posted on 09/14/2022 4:21:05 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: FreshPrince
Kremlin lies.

The Nazi battalion was not a lie. The oppression and downright atrocities in the Donbass are not a lie.

54 posted on 09/15/2022 7:28:40 AM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (F*ck Joe Biden!)
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