Posted on 09/10/2022 5:49:27 PM PDT by Timber Rattler
Senior Ukrainian officials stepped up intelligence sharing with their American counterparts over the summer as they began to plan the counteroffensive that allowed them to make dramatic gains in the northeast in recent days, a shift that allowed the United States to provide better and more relevant information about Russian weaknesses, according to American officials.
Throughout the war, the United States has provided Ukraine with information on command posts, ammunition depots and other key nodes in the Russian military lines. Such real-time intelligence has allowed the Ukrainians — who U.S. officials acknowledge have played the decisive role in planning and execution — to target Russian forces, kill senior generals and force ammunition supplies to be moved farther from the Russian front lines.
But earlier on, American intelligence officials said they often had a better understanding of Russia’s military plans than of Ukraine’s. Concerned that sharing their operational plans could highlight weaknesses and discourage continued American support, the Ukrainians were closely guarding their operational plans even as American intelligence was gathering precise details on what the Kremlin was ordering and Russian commanders were planning.
But as Ukraine laid its plans to strike back against the Russians, senior leaders in Kyiv decided that sharing more information with the United States would help secure more assistance, American officials said.
Senior U.S. officials declined to say how much details from the counteroffensive plan Ukraine had shared and how much advice the United States had offered. But one official said Americans had “constantly” discussed with Kyiv ways that Ukraine could blunt the Russian advance in the country’s east.
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I’m shocked to hear this, shocked.
Germans planned this and probably commanded most of it. It positively rings of Teutonic efficiency.
I’m shocked you dumb bastards are still pretending its somehow damning and controversial.
Germans planned this and probably commanded most of it. It positively rings of Teutonic efficiency.
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But , depending on Ivan’s energy to fuel your manufacturing, heat your infrastructure, rings of stupidity. I guess you can be efficient and stupid at the same time.
They conveniently forget how the Soviets gave satellite info to the NVA? (Among many other things.)
Seems like the Germans have always been efficient and stupid at the same time.
“They still haven’t figure out the difference between withdrawal and retreat as Russia continues to carry out it’s targeted areas.”
Some onehas Od’d on the copium.
It's a proxy war between the US and Russia. I don't think the Russians will forget that in the future.
In other words, you are repeating the classic Russian troll line of “but we MEANT to do that!”
The German military barely exists. This was us. We have infinitely more experienced combat officers at all levels.
The Germans have not planned a military operation since mid 1945. What makes you think they had a hand in this operation?
If our guys planned this then God bless ‘em.
Most unlikely it was Germans. It’s straight out of US Staff College, with a “poor army” practicality - doing more with less expediency.
If I had to name the flavor, it’s actually Israeli, 1967 era.
This’ll get the Putinistas hyperventilating. ;)
Heroism of Ukrainians should change NATO’s attitude towards prospect of Ukraine’s membership, which will only strengthen the Alliance – Andriy Yermak at YES meeting
10 September 2022 - 23:30
https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/geroyizm-ukrayinciv-maye-zminiti-stavlennya-nato-do-perspekt-77673
They arrived in Kupiansk, too, to the north of Izyum. Amazing progress.
Ukraine Troops Reach Railway Hub as Breakthrough Threatens to Turn into Rout (see Kupiansk in the article)
https://www.algemeiner.com/2022/09/10/ukraine-troops-reach-railway-hub-as-breakthrough-threatens-to-turn-into-rout/
You could argue truthfully that maneuver warfare developed from German doctrine in WW2, but we’re the primary practitioners of it now.
And Bill Lind was a pretty sharp guy - he came to Quantico once when I was there and had a meet and BS session with Tactics instructors back in the 80’s when we began shifting doctrine.
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