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1 posted on 09/10/2022 5:49:27 PM PDT by Timber Rattler
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I’m shocked to hear this, shocked.


2 posted on 09/10/2022 5:52:31 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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Germans planned this and probably commanded most of it. It positively rings of Teutonic efficiency.


3 posted on 09/10/2022 5:53:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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Throughout the war, the United States has provided Ukraine with information...

It's a proxy war between the US and Russia. I don't think the Russians will forget that in the future.

10 posted on 09/10/2022 6:16:12 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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This’ll get the Putinistas hyperventilating. ;)

Heroism of Ukrainians should change NATO’s attitude towards prospect of Ukraine’s membership, which will only strengthen the Alliance – Andriy Yermak at YES meeting
10 September 2022 - 23:30
https://www.president.gov.ua/en/news/geroyizm-ukrayinciv-maye-zminiti-stavlennya-nato-do-perspekt-77673


17 posted on 09/10/2022 6:32:06 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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They arrived in Kupiansk, too, to the north of Izyum. Amazing progress.

Ukraine Troops Reach Railway Hub as Breakthrough Threatens to Turn into Rout (see Kupiansk in the article)
https://www.algemeiner.com/2022/09/10/ukraine-troops-reach-railway-hub-as-breakthrough-threatens-to-turn-into-rout/


18 posted on 09/10/2022 6:37:50 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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“A timelapse of the progress over the first 4 days of Ukraine’s Kharkiv offensive.”
https://twitter.com/War_Mapper/status/1568755355592626176?s=20&t=MXLQNSeLWmxmBefNLKmVRg


21 posted on 09/10/2022 6:46:39 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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https://sonar21.com/understanding-planning-orders-and-troop-movements-in-ukraine/

So, was Russia caught by surprise? No. They had at least one week’s warning of the impending Ukrainian attack. If you want to believe that Russia’s intelligence service is incompetent or was deceived in this operation, enjoy the fantasy. The Russian planners had a couple of choices. They could have moved their forces into position earlier but that would have tipped off the Ukrainians and west that the planned offensive was compromised.

Alternatively, the Russian planners may have decided to mask their movements and made choices about which villages and cities to defend and which to abandon. If Russia had moved preemptively to reinforce Izyum that would have raised warning flags for the Ukrainian and NATO planners.

I agree with Andrei Martyanov’s take–the Russians knew it was coming and chose to let the Ukrainians flood the zone in order to eventually hit the Ukrainian forces with a massive counter attack. The Ukrainians are no longer in fortified defensive positions and their lines of communication to support the forward troops are now defined precisely. The Ukrainian attack has not destroyed nor disrupted Russia’s air, artillery, rocket and missile assets. Attacking the Ukrainian units is an easier task, not more difficult.

I am not privy to the Russian plan. But what I do know is that the planning process required to deploy the troops and equipment moving into Kharkov was not a panicked response. Hollywood can create the illusion of rapid movement of military troops, but the real world requires alerting units, making sure they are properly supplied and then undertaking the logistic task of moving those units into combat. This means the planning was deliberate, not a crisis response.

24 posted on 09/10/2022 6:56:00 PM PDT by Kazan
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NATO E3-Sentry spy plane just made another appearance and is circling andwatching the Kherson region right now from Romanian air space.


52 posted on 09/10/2022 8:28:09 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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Planning via JOPES.


59 posted on 09/10/2022 9:01:57 PM PDT by cranked
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Reported Russian armory hit by something (probly HIMARS) near Kherson.

Russian troops continue to flee on all fronts.

Russian rout continues apace.


78 posted on 09/11/2022 12:12:34 AM PDT by Vaden (Real conservatives will not allow our wagon to be hitched to fascist Russia)
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