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Lament For the Hollow Crown Elizabeth II’s empty legacy
Substack ^ | 9/9/2022 | John Carter

Posted on 09/10/2022 8:16:51 AM PDT by SuzyQue

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To: Wuli

Yes, the writer does make that point.


21 posted on 09/10/2022 9:57:09 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: HamiltonJay

So....you didn’t actually read it, but are here commenting on it...


22 posted on 09/10/2022 9:57:57 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: rbg81; SuzyQue

Agreed! Long but worth the read.


23 posted on 09/10/2022 10:00:09 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: Wuli

Some symbols carry more weight than others.

The meaning of some symbols changes over time to become antithetical to their original meaning.

As a symbol, I’d say the royal family (Chuck pi$$y about his pen stand, his partner in adultery stumbling to his side, the painfully obvious photo-op with the warring Cambridges and Harkles) has morphed into something that should be relegated to history.


24 posted on 09/10/2022 10:02:54 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: Zhang Fei
"This writer’s predictions makes Edgar Rice Burroughs look like a writer of non-fiction."

Thanks for pointing me to this author's earlier essay. It puts into one place all of the concerns non-neocon/non-Booyah Freepers have expressed over the past couple of years.

He is very humble about his "predictions", and they really don't amount to predictions so much as reasonable conclusions from widely available data.

25 posted on 09/10/2022 10:49:00 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: Wuli
"The political comparisons between other British monarchs and Elizabeth II, or between Elizabeth the I and Elizabeth the II are just stupid, either by openly ignoring facts or sheer ignorance."

If you had read the article you would have seen that this was not the point the essayist was trying to make.

26 posted on 09/10/2022 10:51:42 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: Americannae1362

There is no sentiment expressed in this article. No sentiment to be spared.


27 posted on 09/10/2022 10:52:47 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: HamiltonJay

The limitations of the current monarchy are recognized by the author and addressed in his essay.


28 posted on 09/10/2022 10:53:59 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear (This is not a tagline.)
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To: Wuli

If the author is an American, then there’s nothing stupid about what he wrote. He lives in a country that owes its existence to a bunch of men who revolted against the English royalty and everything it stood for.


29 posted on 09/10/2022 11:20:22 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: Wuli
The author's most important point was that QEII could have spoken up (on numerous occasions) to champion the preservation of British culture & traditions, but did not. She was content to let Britiain sleep-walk to the place it is today. Maybe he opinion would have made no difference, but at least she could have tried.
30 posted on 09/10/2022 12:33:48 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: SuzyQue; rbg81; Alberta's Child; ClearCase_guy; Americannae1362

Strange that the leftists call her the “colonizer”. A much more accurate name would be the “un-colonizer”.

It was under her 70 year “reign”, that most of the British colonies became indipendent - to the detriment of the natives, I might add.

During her time what got, and continues to be colonized at breakneck speed, is Britain, Europe, the US and what we call the “west”.

At this rate if whites don’t regain a sense of common self preservation and backbone, we’ll become the new Neanderthals.


31 posted on 09/10/2022 12:34:52 PM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they control you. )
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To: rbg81

No, he has a superficial at best knowledge of UK history. Most of his criticisms are either wrong, or better directed at Parliament, local authorities, or the political parties.

The Rhodesians cut their own throats with the UDI in 1965. Had they tried the 1979 internal settlement in 1965. They would have had a peaceful and successful integration of the country. Instead they provoked a civil war that became unwinnable when the Portuguese withdrew from Angola and Mozambique in 1975.

Don’t get me started on the Boers in South Africa who managed screw the pooch repeatedly and throughly throughout their history.


32 posted on 09/10/2022 12:37:43 PM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: GreenLanternCorps

Most of his criticisms are either wrong, or better directed at Parliament, local authorities, or the political parties.


I think you missed the point. It is obvious that, much like the Pope, the Queen has no direct political power. However, she has (had) the power of the pulpit. She could talk directly to the people and many would take her arguments into consideration. So she may not have been able to change anything, but she could have tried and had a tangible impact.

But....she never really tried. At least not in public. Part of it might have been a fear of politicizing the Monarchy which could have led to restrictions or even its its elimination.


33 posted on 09/10/2022 3:04:39 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: HamiltonJay

I understood that the monarch can also dissolve or dismiss parliament. Back in the Commonwealth days she did do to slow down Australia’s very left wing PM, Gough Whitlam


34 posted on 09/10/2022 3:32:44 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: SuzyQue

It’s hard to accomplish something when you don’t actually rule.


35 posted on 09/10/2022 3:36:49 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu

Ah...you didn’t read it either.


36 posted on 09/10/2022 3:46:50 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: SuzyQue
She didn't run things, and Britain wasn't going to hang on to countries that didn't want to be ruled by Britain.

Say we had an unelected figurehead king or queen here, and he or she said everything "John Carter" wanted said. Would we really listen to him or her? Would we really keep a monarch around if he or she interfered with our elected officials?

37 posted on 09/10/2022 4:00:22 PM PDT by x
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To: SuzyQue

Read enough to know the guy is holding her responsible for things she had no control over. The office has not had any actual power in her lifetime. He tries to make a case, but his case is hollow. She had no power. And she took over at a time when the world was turning hard against monarchs. If she’d tried any of the crap the fool says she should have the monarchy probably would have been ended (which, of course, it should have been before she was even born). At various points in her “reign” there was very strong anti-royal sentiment.
Oh look at this one: The monarch is meant to be the champion of the people. BWAHAHAHAHAH The guy is an idiotic, the monarch is NOT the champion of the people, the monarch is the last remains of a dead aristocracy, desperately hoping the people don’t realize how completely useless they are and seize all their palaces.

The guy is quite simply wrong. There was never really a chance to have a legacy. His “queen who should have been” shouldn’t have been, couldn’t have been, and never will be.


38 posted on 09/10/2022 4:03:22 PM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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To: discostu

Yeah, you missed the point.


39 posted on 09/10/2022 4:11:36 PM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: muir_redwoods

There was the 1975 Constitutional Crisis (Australia).

The Queen did not take part. One of the Queen’s secretaries opined that the Governor-General had authority to dismiss the government based on the Australian Constitution when the House and Senate were deadlocked.

The Queen didn’t know about it until after it happened.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/queens-australia-rep-assured-power-75-crisis-71766590


40 posted on 09/10/2022 4:25:34 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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