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'They Are Getting Ready for Trump’s Second Term': Former Pentagon Brass Encourage Military to Disobey Orders
Townhall ^ | 09/07/2022 | Spencer Brown

Posted on 09/07/2022 9:54:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 09/07/2022 9:54:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Is this not sedition by these people?


2 posted on 09/07/2022 9:56:45 AM PDT by Parley Baer (WI)
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“Military officers swear an oath to support and defend the Constitution, not an oath of fealty to an individual or to an office,” the letter explains. “All civilians, whether they swear an oath or not, are likewise obligated to support and defend the Constitution as their highest duty.”

Sounds like Oath Keepers. And we’ve been told by DOJ/FBI that Oath Keepers are terrorists.


3 posted on 09/07/2022 9:58:08 AM PDT by Flick Lives (FJB and the corrupt FBI)
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To: SeekAndFind

My former esteem for American military brass has been dashed by reality.


4 posted on 09/07/2022 9:58:16 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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“Leon Panetta”

The same Leon Panetta who told anyone who’d listen in 2020 that Hunter Biden’s laptop was a Russian hoax? That Leon Panetta? Yeah, he’s impartial.


5 posted on 09/07/2022 9:58:56 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: SeekAndFind

Do these clowns not recognize the politicization of the military by Benito Biden?


6 posted on 09/07/2022 9:58:58 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Truth is hate speech to those who hate the truth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can you say SEDITION?

I knew you could.

Can you say ‘COURT MARTIAL’?

I knew you could.....................


7 posted on 09/07/2022 10:00:00 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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what will they try... and how will it be received by the woke military? very interesting.


8 posted on 09/07/2022 10:00:17 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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“all signed by former Pentagon brass including Ash Carter, Mark Esper, Bob Gates, Chuck Hagel, Jim Mattis, Leon Panetta, Martin Dempsey, Joseph Dunford, and Peter Pace.”

Nice place for the next DOJ to start.


9 posted on 09/07/2022 10:01:15 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (Fill your lamps!)
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i believe he was also telling everyone that the military did not come to the rescue in benghazi

cuz it was too scary


10 posted on 09/07/2022 10:01:45 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: SeekAndFind

More MUTINY mongering already ?


11 posted on 09/07/2022 10:03:04 AM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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“Military officers swear an oath to support and defend the Constitution, not an oath of fealty to an individual or to an office...”

Uh huh. But when the President demands the military fortify the capitol to prevent citizens from exercising their rights to petition for redress of grievances, the military complies. So that oath is a lie.


12 posted on 09/07/2022 10:04:29 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: SeekAndFind

These signatories of the open letter are the same ones that have destroyed our military. All lost endless wars, all woke policies, all spending blunders, all failed global strategy stems from these anti-American pieces of excrement.


13 posted on 09/07/2022 10:06:20 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ( Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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Look at number three:

3. Under the U.S. Constitution, civilian control of the military is shared across all three branches of government. Ultimately, civilian control is wielded by the will of the American people as expressed through elections.

So the President just as "equal" power compared to Pelosi or Schumer.

14 posted on 09/07/2022 10:06:27 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ( The problem today: people are more concerned about feelings than responsibility)
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Since the ‘90s, it was the politicians rather than the warriors that were promoted in the officer corps.

The article shows what happens when you promote folks who believe that “self above service” is more important than “service above self”

Every time I regret not putting in my 20 or more years, I read articles like this and count my blessings.


15 posted on 09/07/2022 10:12:28 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Fire them. All of them. Kurt Schlichter had a great article about how President Trump should handle the entire cadre of Flag Officers and one of the steps was to assemble them at the very beginning of his second term, tell them to shut up and listen, and then order them to do what he says. If anyone does not then he fires them and doesn’t even let them resign.


16 posted on 09/07/2022 10:13:39 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: SeekAndFind

If this is public, and it’s verifiable, those people involved
active duty or not, should be prosecuted.

That should be weeded out by the time Trump takes office
again.

They pulled a coup already. Now they are openly (it seems)
participating in a mutiny of sorts.

That’s not an option folks.


17 posted on 09/07/2022 10:14:09 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: Parley Baer

I read it twice and it comes across as much about nothing. The obedience to the CinC always meant 9bedience to lawful orders, ie Constitutional orders. As for the military’s role in law enforcement Posse Comitatus takes care of most of that. Work around like having a USCG party on a Navy frigate to allow for the stopping, searching, and seizing of cartel vessels have been in practice for decades. As for a POTUS going off and ordering an attack on a foreign country or sending the Military to stop the violence in NYC, those would be addressed almost immediately by the 25th amendment. Federal troops were used in the 60s bothto secure rights of Black Americans and to quell riots by the same group. The latter was at the request of state governors, particularly governor of Michigan. Several excesses occurred in the Clinton years, particularly involving the assault on the Branch Davidian compound. My feeling is that the commanders who provided the armored vehicles in that scenario should have refused


18 posted on 09/07/2022 10:14:15 AM PDT by xkaydet65 ( )
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To: SeekAndFind

Is this like that 50 LIARS letter from ‘intelligence’ officials on how Hunter Biden’s laptop was ‘Russian Disinformation’?

Here’s my suggestion to our ‘defense’ people. Keep YOUR eyes on the real enemies: China, North Korea, Iran, Russia and quip pretending 75 million Americans are wandering around Alabama forest, wearing camo and listening to banjo music.

If that’s your level of intellect it’s no wonder we crashed and burned in Afghanistan - and that no one wants to sign up to ‘defend the country’ if that means killing fellow Americans. Get real. Defense is MORE than protecting people who want to sexually mutilate young people and other perversions.


19 posted on 09/07/2022 10:19:53 AM PDT by GOPJ (Biden's 'WAR ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE' speech is history's Jimmah Carter's BIG RABBIT blunder..)
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"The maximum punishment for a violation or failure to obey lawful general order or regulation is dishonorable discharge, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, and confinement for two years."

First result of a Google search.

20 posted on 09/07/2022 10:20:39 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Leftism is the denial of human nature.)
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