LOL! There wasn't even a network for cellphones to use in the 1970's!
The first commercial cellphone was launched in 1983.
Posted on 09/02/2022 7:06:20 AM PDT by FarCenter
In Part 1 of our series on Fog Data Science, we saw how when you give some apps permission to view your location, it can end up being packaged and sold to numerous other companies. Fog Data Science is one of those companies, and it has created a sleek search engine called Fog Reveal that allows cops to browse through that location data as if they were Google Maps results.
In this article, we’ll be taking a deep dive into Fog Reveal’s features. Although accounts for Reveal are typically only available to police departments, we were able to analyze the app’s public-facing code to get a better understanding of how it works, how it’s used, and what it looks like when cops get warrantless access to your location data.
Fog Reveal offers law enforcement a powerful and incredibly invasive tool for sifting through huge datasets of phone location data. Reveal’s workflow allows cops to perform “geofenced” device searches, i.e. a search for all devices in a specified region on a map, and then find all other locations those devices were at other times. A powerpoint presentation we received from the Chino Police Department describes how cops use these features to identify so-called “bed-down” locations and build up “patterns of life” for device’s owners. These features clearly undercut Fog’s claim that their product only contains “anonymized” data with “no PII [personally identifiable information]”.
(Excerpt) Read more at eff.org ...
Because "reasons".
Location services has nothing to do with cell tower localization.
Every now and then I check my phone permissions, sometimes I find that Google has location data AGAIN. I turn it off and it reappears eventually.
IIRC every time I get a forced update on my phone all the apps get location data again by default.
Normally 0 apps get my location data.
But, of course, the cell towers get my location continuously.
LOL! There wasn't even a network for cellphones to use in the 1970's!
The first commercial cellphone was launched in 1983.
BKMRK
Actually it does. The first iteration using only triangulation was too inaccurate to be marketable, so the handset makers went looking for chip sets using data fusion to combine GPS and 6dof inertial sensor packages (like the one my employer made) to greatly improve the accuracy. But the reason never was so you could find places on a map - that was just a nice by-product. The real treason was so they could monetize your location and sell LBS.
“Reason: you NEED location services on your phone active to properly detect, use and switch between cellphone towers.”
Tower switching is based on signal strength and congestion.
Here’s a novel idea; don’t want to be tracked? Don’t carry a cell phone. I don’t own one and I get along just fine as I have for decades!
“Actually it does.”
Actually, it doesn’t.
With rare exceptions (e.g., when requesting an UBER) I NEVER share location data with any businesses with which I deal. We use Apple products and the DEFAULT location sharing with a business is “NEVER”. The businesses have to ASK you to share your location and I simply say NOPE. And, guess what, they still want your business and will work with you not knowing your location.
“I don’t own one and I get along just fine as I have for decades!”
I own one and is great addition to my life!
About 15 years ago I started out on a Sunday to my jobsite about 250 mikes away and got a call from my wife saying her mother had a heart attack and was not expected to live.
Me cellphone gave me the route to the hospital and I was there in 30 minutes. Without the cellphone I would have been 250 miles and hours away before I knew.
“Don’t carry a cell phone. I don’t own one and I get along just fine as I have for decades!”
When I in a store shopping I use the phone to compare prices and check reviews.
Sometimes I find items and snap a photo if the display and come home and research.
If I see something the wife might like, I will text a photo to her on the spot. I do this also if I need to check an item on her list but not sure of specifics.
“Don’t carry a cell phone. I don’t own one and I get along just fine as I have for decades!”
Ever get separated from your wife while shopping?
A quick text solves that.
At outdoor malls I can track which store she is in.
When I drop her off and wait in the car, I can see on the phone when she comes out of the store or she can text me when she is ready for pickup.
I can research the www or play games while waiting!
“Don’t carry a cell phone. I don’t own one and I get along just fine as I have for decades!”
My brother is not very good with navigating in strange areas. When he first came to visit me at my new home, I used an app to monitor his movements and give him turn-by-turn real time directions.
He had to evacuate from a hurricane in 2018. He headed to my house but was exhausted. We told him we would meet him and the wife and I headed oout.
We were halfway to him when he called said he had to pull over.
Cellphones saved us several hours.
>>Don’t carry a cell phone.
Alternatively, when you don’t want to be tracked, put your cellphone in a Faraday bag.
“that allows cops to browse through that location data as if they were Google Maps results. “
saw that used on “First 48” last night ... one big-time drug dealer hunted and assassinated another big-time drug dealer ...
“Don’t carry a cell phone. I don’t own one and I get along just fine as I have for decades!”. One day I was out and my car battery died. Called my insurance company for a jump and called my wife to let her know I would be late.
Towing company texted me ETA 45 minutes.
Do I wait 45 or wait 30 minutes for wife to bring cables?
Problem solves. Good Samaritan gives me a jump, I call and cancel tow service and call wife saying I will be home in ten.
“Alternatively, when you don’t want to be tracked, put your cellphone in a Faraday bag.”
Just turn on Airplane Mode.
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