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The stock market is plunging and the Fed is giving up on a ‘soft landing’ in favor of a ‘growth recession.’ Buckle up.
Fortune via MSN ^ | 8/31/22 | Will Daniel

Posted on 09/01/2022 1:31:22 PM PDT by 1Old Pro

Diane Swonk, the chief economist at KPMG, told Bloomberg that in her mind, these comments signal that the Fed has given up on its hopes for a “soft landing,” and now recognizes a “growth recession” is necessary to reduce inflation meaning the Fed will need to slow economic growth to well below its potential.

“It’s a bit like dripping water torture,” she said. “It is a torturous process but less torturous and less painful than an abrupt recession.”

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bidenflation
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To: nobody in particular
When President Trump was president, there was talk of the DJIA reaching 40,000....today is closed at 31,656... My bet it reaches 30,000 before biden is done.

I wonder how many folks have come out of retirement due to this joke of an administration

21 posted on 09/01/2022 2:25:40 PM PDT by SGCOS (not vaccinated for covid and never will be)
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To: rbmillerjr

James or municipal bonds?


22 posted on 09/01/2022 2:27:53 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Don't rush to your death.)
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To: Antoninus
Is that anything like “jumbo shrimp” or “brilliant idiot”?

Or heavy anvil.

23 posted on 09/01/2022 2:30:01 PM PDT by Hyman Roth
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To: frogjerk

“Name one time in history there has been a “soft landing” of an inflationary economy the likes we are experiencing.”

Define “soft landing”.


24 posted on 09/01/2022 2:49:39 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: 1Old Pro

Interest rates should be over 10% to effect any inflation.

The problem they have..is what to do with the interest payments on the national debt if they raise it that much.


25 posted on 09/01/2022 2:51:53 PM PDT by crz
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To: ClearCase_guy

“I look forward to having my chocolate ration increased to 20 grams”.

The beatings will continue until morale improves.


26 posted on 09/01/2022 2:53:26 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: SGCOS

Subtract trillions of $$$ in “stimulus” (welfare), QE and deficit spending that went into equities and the Dow should be around 22,800...we have a lot of room on the downside.


27 posted on 09/01/2022 3:01:05 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Yo-Yo

Build back better in effect people, you don’t want it we will shove it up your a##


28 posted on 09/01/2022 3:29:55 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: 1Old Pro

But, but this is impossible. Biden said we would not have a recession and inflation is under control./s


29 posted on 09/01/2022 4:02:06 PM PDT by Paperpusher (Gal 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.)
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To: Paperpusher

no recession https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/27/business/biden-recession-us-economy.html

no inflation https://nypost.com/2022/08/10/biden-wh-claims-us-has-zero-inflation-despite-high-rate/


30 posted on 09/01/2022 4:05:40 PM PDT by Paperpusher (Gal 5:15 But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.)
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To: 1Old Pro

What a play on words. More manipulation and propaganda.

Nothing from here will be normal because the whole scheme has changed.

Growth recession, my sweet Aunt Fanny’s ass.

They have screwed the pooch and are now looking for cover.


31 posted on 09/01/2022 4:17:41 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Politicians are only marginally good at one thing, being politicians. Otherwise they are fools.)
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To: 1Old Pro

Fed just making everything worse.


32 posted on 09/01/2022 5:16:59 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: ClearCase_guy

2+2=5 and down with Eastasia during this week of hate!


33 posted on 09/01/2022 5:53:33 PM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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To: crz
Interest rates should be over 10% to effect any inflation.

The problem they have..is what to do with the interest payments on the national debt if they raise it that much.

You are correct. If Biden and Congress don't rein in spending (balanced budget would be best) then the Fed will have to take the blame for raising rates high enough to end inflation and to counter the deficits at the same time.

That's what Reagan and Volcker had to overcome, too. Interest rates ended up near 20%. This Fed is too scared to go there. We end up with stagflation.

34 posted on 09/01/2022 5:56:09 PM PDT by BfloGuy ( Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas)
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To: BfloGuy

IMO..and you and I agree..IMHO, I think prices continue to rise even though they try and reign in inflation.

We got way to many factors at play here. The most important is the denial of letting the energy sector loose to produce the products needed to lower costs and ultimately drop prices.

Time will tell.


35 posted on 09/01/2022 6:49:34 PM PDT by crz
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To: 1Old Pro
"growth recession"

How about "regressive equity" or "progressive depression?" Were those terms already being used?
36 posted on 09/01/2022 8:45:38 PM PDT by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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To: Antoninus
Ah, the old “growth recession”. Is that anything like “jumbo shrimp” or “brilliant idiot”?

Or government accountability

37 posted on 09/02/2022 6:11:23 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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