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Will Europe Go Down to Defeat Before Ukraine?
Naked Capitalism ^ | August 29, 2022 | Yves Smith

Posted on 08/30/2022 6:59:43 PM PDT by rod5591

We will be so bold as to posit that not only has the sanctions war against Russia backfired spectacularly, but the damage to the West, most of all Europe, is accelerating rapidly. And this is not the result of Russia taking active measures2 but the costs of the loss or reduction of key Russian resources compounding over time.

So due to the intensity of the energy shock, the economic timetable is moving faster than the military. Unless Europe engages in a major course correction, and we don’t see how this can happen, the European economic crisis looks set to become devastating before Ukraine is formally defeated.

Now that European leaders are returning from summer holidays, it appears only now to be dawning on them that Europe is entering a severe and almost certainly protracted economic crisis.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: bloggertrash; chechens; chechnya; deathtochechnya; deathtoputin; deathtorussia; economy; europe; hateamericafirst; pedosforputin; putinlovertrollsonfr; putinsbuttboys; putinworshippers; russia; russianaggression; scottritter; ukraine; vladtheimploder; yvessmith; zottherussiantrolls
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Europe has cut their own throats over hatred of Russia. Unspoken in this article is, with Europe bleeding out, how far behind is the USA in this madness?
1 posted on 08/30/2022 6:59:43 PM PDT by rod5591
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Europe is managing to lose a war which they are not even technically involved in.


2 posted on 08/30/2022 7:04:05 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (We are already in a revolutionary period, and the Rule of Law means nothing. )
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I doubt the Zelenskyy fans will ever understand this reality. They’re in denial that they were duped by the MSM and the globalists and believed their ridiculous David vs Goliath fable.


3 posted on 08/30/2022 7:06:27 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Let’s Go, Brandon! )
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To: rod5591

Is this the Russian way, slow roll to drain the enemy? Feel sorry for the EU especially the Germans. Gonna be a cold winter. Maybe the Dark winter Joe spoke of last year.


4 posted on 08/30/2022 7:08:09 PM PDT by griswold3 (When chaos serves the State, the State will encourage chaos.)
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Europe is going green, soon to be soylent green, we should celebrate


5 posted on 08/30/2022 7:10:59 PM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: rod5591

Europe put sanctions in place against Russia....and now are blaming Putin for their energy shortages.

Tucker Carlson goes into this today. Shocking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn6c-UkqlHo


6 posted on 08/30/2022 7:11:36 PM PDT by xenia ( “Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Will Europe Go Down to Defeat Before Ukraine?”

Only if they’re lucky.


7 posted on 08/30/2022 7:12:02 PM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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> > > Feel sorry for the EU especially the Germans.

Every time I start to feel sorry for the Krauts, I remember this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfJv9QYrlwg


8 posted on 08/30/2022 7:12:30 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: griswold3

That’s what the word is, drag it on through the winter. Drain the EU and NATO.

Europe should have better prepared. Russia knew this was coming years ago, as did the US. It’s just that we aren’t affected by it as much as Europe is.

I bet they are still laughing at Trump like they did at the United Nations.


9 posted on 08/30/2022 7:13:04 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: rod5591

Will FreeRepublic ever be liberated from all the many posts about some bunk little war on the other side of the world?


10 posted on 08/30/2022 7:14:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Prince of Space

Zelensky is still banking on his media publicity and propaganda machinery to keep his Ukrainians fighting and believing for a favorable outcome.


11 posted on 08/30/2022 7:16:25 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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To: rod5591

The leaders of these countries wanted a regime change in Moscow. But, the regime changes are going to occurring in their own countries if the self-inflicted policies cause a depression.


12 posted on 08/30/2022 7:19:00 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: eyeamok

They could have told Victoria Newman ‘no’ when she strong-armed them to be supportive of Ukraine or else.


13 posted on 08/30/2022 7:19:28 PM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......Augustine)
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…and their weapons “ donations” are grinding to a halt, at least from the EU members that rely on a manufacturing base dependent on NG and commodities that were basically all procured from Russia. Any more weapons donations not only depletes their own meager military stores, but crippled and suicides their civilian manufacturing.

Rationing was announced in July, now in effect…..the West and EU is being crippled, why are they so intent on committing suicide?

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/eu-announces-gas-rationing-energy-crisis-continues-203735

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2022/08/25/winter-of-discontent-germany-to-implement-energy-rationing-amid-fears-of-gas-riots/

All the while Vlad continues to get rich, the West goes deeper into unpayable debt, and their citizens start suffering unbearably and needlessly.

It doesn’t take a genius to see who is winning this war.


14 posted on 08/30/2022 7:20:51 PM PDT by delta7
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To: rod5591
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15 posted on 08/30/2022 7:20:57 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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how far behind is the USA in this madness?

Once the American children get Freeport back up and running, we'll get to see how high US domestic natgas prices will go this winter.

16 posted on 08/30/2022 7:26:22 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Prince of Space
I doubt the Zelenskyy fans will ever understand this reality. They’re in denial that they were duped by the MSM and the globalists and believed their ridiculous David vs Goliath fable.

The dirty RuZZians don't have a Star Wars tradition, so they don't know that when Luke Pianokeyboardwalker mounts up on his trusty Z-wing, Blue&Yellow Six, the Moscow Death Star is going down.

The Russians have the Berlin 1945 tradition, where Steiner doesn't show up, and the Reich Chancellery gets pounded into chunky dust by - wait for it - artillery.

17 posted on 08/30/2022 7:33:46 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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Europe is managing to lose a war which they are not even technically involved in.

Because both NATO and the EU have committed to supporting Ukraine, member states are effectively involved and subject to repercussions. The Russians won’t care about “technically”.

18 posted on 08/30/2022 7:35:34 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: rod5591

And something to take into account is that the folks of western Europe, for the most part, have been leading very comfortable lives. They ain’t their grandaddy’s generation. And we’re no different.

It’ll never happen to them. Until it does.


19 posted on 08/30/2022 7:38:28 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: rod5591

Well if Europe does go down, perhaps Americans will no longer be required to spend our blood and treasure every time they decide to redraw a border line.


20 posted on 08/30/2022 8:04:15 PM PDT by walkingdead (We are sacrificing American youth's future on the altar of our own fear. And it is a travesty.)
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