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What the Dugin assassination tells us about Russia
Spectator ^ | 8.21.2022 | Marl Galeotti

Posted on 08/21/2022 9:11:52 AM PDT by libh8er

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21 posted on 08/21/2022 10:32:03 AM PDT by Pollard (Worm Free PureBlood)
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To: BeauBo
Success has a hundred fathers, but failure is an orphan.

This.

Russia is too big to be run by a Central Government, so it relies on LOTS of little fifedoms in flyover Russia to run it.

People in Flyover Russia LOVE LOVE LOVE Putin and the guy can do no wrong (if you had 3 government run TV channels and no other means of information, what else would you think?)

But...Flyover Russians lives also pretty much suck, so ALL of their problems (including their sons coming home in a body bag) are the direct fault of their local fifedom leaders, putting pressure on these local "warlords without a war" to act.

You don't get to be in charge of a local fifedom in Russia without learning how to break a few eggs. When crapstorms are rolling your way, you can revert to your old ways to try to head them off at the pass.

22 posted on 08/21/2022 10:36:52 AM PDT by UNGN
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To: JonPreston

https://www.bkmag.com/2015/06/01/all-in-the-family-farrells-bar-and-grill/

Pete Hammill would be disgusted by today’s lefties. Despite all his drinking he lived to 85. The lefties of 30-40 years ago were entertaining. Today’s lefties are psychos from the jabs they got


23 posted on 08/21/2022 10:58:57 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: mac_truck

It has to be someone close to the Establishment which Assange isn’t and Breitbart wasn’t.

Inside the Government inside the System.

I have no names to drop perhaps the FBI would like us to do that for their next “Gretchen Whitmer Kidnap Plot” scam.


24 posted on 08/21/2022 11:00:01 AM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: mac_truck

Neither Breitbart nor Assange had the philosophical weight (or ballast, or ambition) that Dugin was trying to push. Those guys were tactical, not strategic, or academic.

In the west, on the right, you are talking in the ballpark of the late Roger Scruton. Or, less eminent, maybe Curtis Yarvin (mencius moldbug). Or perhaps Houellebecq in France, but he has a rather different focus. The late Angelo Codevilla would have been there in a “big picture” sense, but, also, his focus was the US.

On the left - mainstream there arent really any big ideas guys that anyone knows anymore, certainly none with such an international reputation that the Russians would have heard of them. Most of the big names have died since the end of the Cold War.


25 posted on 08/21/2022 11:02:40 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: dennisw

Farrell’s was one of the oldest bars in NYC. No stools, no chairs no tables. Hamil got more than a few scoops in there from the regulars who were cops, lawyers, judges and assorted hack politicians. He was tossed out more than once too. You stood and drank and laughed. Truly great memories of days long gone.


26 posted on 08/21/2022 11:08:13 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

I knew Breslin from when he decorated the mahogony at Moochies on Market Slip when I lived on Cherry St. around the corner from the J.A. He once wrote a column about a fireman buddy of mine and how he jumped into action, though off duty, at the scene of a wreck. They went out afterward for a ball and a beer....and, get ready for this....Breslin paid!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hamil was so far left he made Khruschev sound like McCarthy, but man, could that guy write love stories. Not soppy BS, but good, heart tugging love stories. The man had a wonderful way with words.


27 posted on 08/21/2022 11:09:06 AM PDT by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.)
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To: mass55th

Deep State appears to want WW3. Great reset time, one way or another.


28 posted on 08/21/2022 11:10:34 AM PDT by teevolt
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To: Roccus

Cherry street. Good eating. A lot better than the onions and saltines they served at McSorley’s Ale House. We used to sneak our girlfriends in and begin our pub crawls back in the daze!


29 posted on 08/21/2022 11:26:20 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: libh8er

I don’t want to see anyone killed. As far as I can tell she was an innocent bystander. And do not believe any of the Putin Puffer’s conspiracy rants. They have less credibility than CNN.


30 posted on 08/21/2022 11:49:31 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Roccus

Cherry St. was near Knickerbocker village. The Rosenbergs lived there. The spies.


31 posted on 08/21/2022 1:29:33 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: libh8er

There goes Darya. And THERE goes Darya.

Over there, too.


32 posted on 08/21/2022 1:40:42 PM PDT by jdsteel (Do I really need a /sarc?)
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To: achilles2000; Alberta's Child; Allegra; ANKE69; BlackbirdSST; BobL; C210N; Cathi; caver; ...

*MAGA First/Anti-War/Anti-Globalist Ping*

If you want on or off this list, please let me know.


33 posted on 08/21/2022 2:27:19 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The news of a woman being blown up in her car was met with delight in some circles.


34 posted on 08/21/2022 2:34:47 PM PDT by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: dennisw
Pete Hammill would be disgusted by today’s lefties

The Van der Graaf Generator singer?

35 posted on 08/21/2022 2:36:30 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Chunga85

Some real sicko trolls on FR.


36 posted on 08/21/2022 3:18:04 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: Nextrush

In the article it reminds folks this used to be used a lot
in Russia. Why would you ignore that and try to blame
others for it?

Lets see who did do it. Maybe you’re be right, but it
would be nice to see some reasoned explanation for that
blame.


37 posted on 08/21/2022 4:45:32 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: buwaya

Angelo Codevilla is an excellent choice as the American equivalent to Alexander Dugin, except it seems he lacked the influence within government for his ideas...if only more Republicans (including Trump) paid attention to what he was saying.

Of the other names you mentioned, Michel Houellebecq is the most interesting although its doubtful the Macron government pays attention to him.


38 posted on 08/21/2022 5:30:40 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: mac_truck

I’m reading that Dugin was not that well-known domestically and while he & Putin may share love of Russian culture, support for Russian sovereignty, opposition to *woke*/child mutilation/global government/collectivism, it appears more synchronization that mentor/pupil. Perhaps 2 nationalists/traditionalists who speak to each other, likely as equals. GMTA sort of thing.

That’s a hot take, so I will read/listen to more of him to decide.


39 posted on 08/21/2022 6:43:52 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Make yourself less available.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Based on recent incidents in other countries like Syria and Iran I say intelligence agencies are likely suspects starting with Ukraine.

Zelensky talks all out war and Israel has set the standard for other nations to imitate.

Targeted assassinations are OK in Zelensky’s playbook IMHO.


40 posted on 08/21/2022 8:25:00 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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