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Ukraine conflict could end Western hegemony - Viktor Orban
Alternativenews.substack ^

Posted on 08/18/2022 11:55:23 AM PDT by navysealdad

In an interview with German online magazine Tichys Einblick, published on Thursday, Orban said he expects the European Union to emerge weaker in the global arena once the fighting in Ukraine is over.

The Hungarian leader argued that the West is incapable of winning the conflict militarily, and that the sanctions it has imposed on Moscow have failed to destabilize Russia. To make matters worse, the punitive measures have spectacularly backfired on Europe, he said.

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1 posted on 08/18/2022 11:55:23 AM PDT by navysealdad
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NATO is over. Only the Left Behinds remain cheering Biden’s Liberal World Order.


2 posted on 08/18/2022 11:58:36 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: navysealdad

America would do well to listen to Trump more.
Europe would do well to listen to Orbán more.

Unfortunately, the establishment is trying hard to demonize both men. And they are having some success, especially with Trump.


3 posted on 08/18/2022 12:01:34 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: navysealdad

Where’s our FR Neoconservative brigade?


4 posted on 08/18/2022 12:02:57 PM PDT by EEGator
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Every last thing the Uniparty does makes China and Russia stronger, and America weaker and more economically dependent. By design.


5 posted on 08/18/2022 12:08:38 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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“I would like to say a few words about how this war came about and what the reasons for it were. Of course everyone knows that Russia attacked Ukraine. That is what happened. Now let us look at the reason for that...What this means in concrete terms is that it is important to understand why the Russians did what they did; but it does not follow from this that if you understand what they did, you accept what they did.

“The Russians have made a very clear security demand, and have even written it down in a way that is rare in diplomacy, sending it to the Americans and NATO. They have written their demand that Ukraine should never be a member of NATO, that Ukraine declares this, that NATO itself assures Russia of this, and that we undertake to never place weapons on the territory of Ukraine that could hit Russian territory. The West has rejected this offer and has refused to negotiate on it...And the consequence of this refusal is that today the Russians are seeking to achieve by force of arms the security demands that they had previously sought to achieve through negotiation.

“I have to say that this war would never have broken out...Donald Trump had been the President of the USA and Angela Merkel the Chancellor of Germany. But we were not lucky, and so now we are in this war.”

- Viktor Orban


6 posted on 08/18/2022 12:15:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: navysealdad

Orban sounds dumber every time I hear him speak.


7 posted on 08/18/2022 12:17:53 PM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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and that we undertake to never place weapons on the territory of Ukraine that could hit Russian territory.

And even today, the dancing Zeeper clowns are celebrating possible attacks on Russian soil.

After the Russians recently announced what the consequences of those sorts of actions would be.

8 posted on 08/18/2022 12:20:00 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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Orban sounds dumber every time I hear him speak.

The Hungarian citizens who voted for him are glad that he wasn't dumb enough to get sucked into the Green energy trap the Germans are stuck in.

Russian oil and Russian natural gas will be reasonable for Hungarian peasants this winter.

9 posted on 08/18/2022 12:23:58 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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Orban sounds dumber every time I hear him speak.

Says a man who keeps a daily log of broken Ukrainian jeeps.

10 posted on 08/18/2022 12:25:21 PM PDT by JonPreston
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Something stinks with the West fighting Vlad down to the last Ukrainian. The sad part is St Zelensky is intent on demilitarizing his own country. The Ukie casualties are horrendous, economy on life support, beginning to enter hyper inflation, manufacturing totally destroyed, export markets destroyed, all suggesting this continuation of the war has been planned? No calls for Peace nor negotiating by the corrupted little beggar Zelensky.

Ukraine it now appears, will emerge totally destroyed and then carved up. They will be thrown into the historic garbage bin of history, no resources left nor manpower to even govern post war.


11 posted on 08/18/2022 12:27:16 PM PDT by delta7
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True


12 posted on 08/18/2022 12:28:19 PM PDT by navysealdad (http://drdavehouseoffun.com/)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

What’s so great about the West these days? This is not the West of Reagan’s time.


13 posted on 08/18/2022 12:29:36 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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ZZpeedy you are wrong so often it seems like you are doing it on purpose. Why are you such a fan of Biden’s policies?


14 posted on 08/18/2022 12:30:04 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftards are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas

“Orban sounds dumber every time I hear him speak.”

Sounding dumb is your only area of expertise. It comes natural to you.


15 posted on 08/18/2022 12:33:37 PM PDT by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: dfwgator

What’s so great about the West these days? This is not the West of Reagan’s time.


That’s a great question for all the Russians hopping mad about the prospect of losing their Schengen visas to the EU. They seem to love the globohomo west and can’t get enough of it.


16 posted on 08/18/2022 12:37:16 PM PDT by lodi90
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Orban is playing the contrarian for domestic political purposes. All while safely under the American nuclear umbrella. And look at Putin’s Poodles lap up his nonsense.


17 posted on 08/18/2022 12:39:25 PM PDT by lodi90
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Lol says SlowInTexas


18 posted on 08/18/2022 12:50:27 PM PDT by Nashcash
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To: navysealdad

I admire many things about Orban, but he is completely blind on Russia and Putin.

The West CAN defeat Russia, if they WANTED to.

The sanctions have not “failed” and have not “backfired” against Europe.

The sanctions have ABSOLUTELY destabilized Russa and Russians all over the internet prove it with comments and videos.

Europe can easily replace Russian gas.


19 posted on 08/18/2022 1:12:28 PM PDT by Vaden (CAUTION: Defending Putin=Defending Hitler=MAGA Destruction)
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All the Russians have to do is get a cease fire and dangle a kilo of cocaine in front of Hunter. Russia and NATO will be best of buddies then. None of these people have the slightest of scruples. They aren’t fighting to help the Ukrainians. They have other agendas. War in the Ukraine fits that agenda. When this is over they will just move on to the next atrocity.


20 posted on 08/18/2022 1:18:21 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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